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Old April 20th, 2010 Apr 20, 2010 10:50:27 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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maybe we need multiple language forums since certain words do not translate exactly.
Untill then, If you are posting here to SELL something especially, GET someone who can communicate accurately or suffer the sales consequences. If we can't speak BEFORE the sale, how do we expect to handle service AFTER the sale ? Consider the old adage , first impression is often the last impression. Would you post a 1/2 done design and ask feedback?
If you make a $20,000+ purchase decision based on someone's grammatical context on a casual internet forum (for goodness sake they are discussing beer and bourbon on an open forum - can't you tell this is supposed to be fun?), then I guess you will get whatever the smoothest salesman is selling, today - whoever speaks most eloquently will win your business, eh?

I don't believe in that "first impression / last impression" crap, when applying it to making a purchase of this magnitude; rather, I apply a "I will dig and search and evaluate thoroughly until I find the best printer (not the best salesman, or the best company rep) for my business" mentality. Maybe it would apply for customers, who have a million choices for great print shops out there, but when it comes to such a vital piece of equipment like a DTG printer, your choices are very limited and it is a good idea not to "automatically rule a machine out" because you don't like the way someone types.

Just my .02.......

PS - When I began my search for my first digital printer, several years ago, I began interacting with Peter on another forum; his English was even rougher, back then, but I've seen huge improvements over the years! Gotta admire a man for trying - I've done business in Mexico and its all I can do to try and keep up in Spanish.... I am sure a lot of my southern contact think I am an ignorant gringo, because I'm constantly struggling to keep up with conversations and choose the right words from a rather limited Spanish vocabulary...... I hope they wouldn't wholesale discount the idea of doing business with me, because of it!
 
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Old April 20th, 2010 Apr 20, 2010 12:26:21 PM -   #32 (permalink)
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If you make a $20,000+ purchase decision based on someone's grammatical context on a casual internet forum (for goodness sake they are discussing beer and bourbon on an open forum - can't you tell this is supposed to be fun?), then I guess you will get whatever the smoothest salesman is selling, today - whoever speaks most eloquently will win your business, eh?

I don't believe in that "first impression / last impression" crap, when applying it to making a purchase of this magnitude; rather, I apply a "I will dig and search and evaluate thoroughly until I find the best printer (not the best salesman, or the best company rep) for my business" mentality. Maybe it would apply for customers, who have a million choices for great print shops out there, but when it comes to such a vital piece of equipment like a DTG printer, your choices are very limited and it is a good idea not to "automatically rule a machine out" because you don't like the way someone types.

Just my .02.......
For me, typo's & grammar are not really the problem. I am actually Korean-American, and would LOVE to send business to a fellow Korean. However, I cannot in good conscience, regardless of how good their product is, due to fact that this person does nothing but bash their competitors products in an open forum @ every opportunity.

You may consider this a casual forum, but for those that are representing a company or product, I would expect a little professionalism from them.

My motto: Prove that you make a better product or service, instead of putting down the competitor...
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All the sudden this forum became a "Peter's English" thread.
I am truly sorry about my ability of English. But as Justin W says I try so hard to make my English better at my age (60). I have been criticized many times because of my English. Don (SWF) makes fun out of me time after time, maybe most (?). But it did not bother me at all because I know who I am and I know who he is.
I do understand the people's feeling who mentioned about my English. I trust/believe that they do not hate me because of my English ability. They just couldn't understand me well. They are frustrating. I have no hard feeling to all. I just want to be their friend.
AA does more business all over the world than USA domestic. I went almost 100 countries. My iPhone has so many different cities’ time(20) where I do business with. The reason I say this here is.
1. There are so many great people who do business well with inferior than Peter’s level English.
2. Export and Import price tag is extremely higher than NeoFlex retail but I have no issues at all with any language users with my English.
3. Many times I could not understand what other side telling me. I use my patient skill and ask again and again until we close the deal.
Then why I am so into this forum? I love to meet people. I love challenge. I met so many good friends from here. I cannot give up visit here, no matter what. I am not doing this just because of my job or money. I am semi retired. No one says what to do to me. Just doing it because I love you all.
I am happy man. God gave me more than I deserved.
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Old April 20th, 2010 Apr 20, 2010 2:13:44 PM -   #34 (permalink)
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However, I cannot in good conscience, regardless of how good their product is, due to fact that this person does nothing but bash their competitors products in an open forum @ every opportunity.
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My motto: Prove that you make a better product or service, instead of putting down the competitor...
AMEN, brother! I feel the same way about bashing, but I feel that too often, people are scared out of talking about real issues with real products, because everyone hides behind a cloak of "playing nice, and no bashing". Obviously there needs to be a level of respect and professionalism; I won't argue with you there! I've been called a lot of names on some forums, over the years, that have nothing to do with the printing industry...... haha.

I hear you 100% on not wanting to watch dealers bash each other (or customers), on the internet forums or anywhere else; however, if we were to browse through just a few dozen threads, I am sure we could present a strong argument that Peter is by no means the greatest instigator, around here...... Like he said before: this IS the NeoFlex forum - I don't see him posting very much in other machines' forums?

Anyways, don't mean to hijack the thread! Back to your regularly scheduled discussion............ I just got a more shallow meaning out of what I read in your post, and I probably jumped to conclusions; I've seen some mean-spirited stuff said because of Peter's broken English, in the past, and I don't think that's fair; I always advocate applauding where it is deserved, and being direct about identifying issues or shortcomings where they may exist, but not picking on people. However, I understand what you are saying now, and I agree 100%!
 
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