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[Kornit General] Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

 
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Old April 5th, 2016 Apr 5, 2016 12:03:44 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

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I am currently looking to purchase a kornit printer, either avalanche or storm. The avalanche is veryyy expensive so we decided to hold off on the avalanche as make this our second kornit purchase a few months down the line as new is too expensive and we cant find any used ones anywhere in the US for sale.

The storm we have found for sale, about 5 year old plus models that all claim to work great, one was on ebay, few others I found on forums etc. I plan on visiting the kornit machine before purchasing and also getting a kornit technican to come with me. I figured thats the best so he can inspect the machine and tell me if I need to repair anything and the life of the machine... I am able to get a used kornit storm for about 50k is the going price up or down.

So my question is anyone have experience or any advice on going this route, or would you still suggest buying a new machine for 200k instead and financing it? I figured if I buy a used kornit thats in working condition, the worst that could happen is i have to repair a few things on it down the road, but I dont see it costing me anywhere near 150k plus for the repairs to make it even with buying a new one.

Any experiences first hand with this and anything I should look out for?

Also side note, do you have to buy an adelco gas dryer for kornit dtg printers or can I get a brown 9 foot oven gas dryer (looks similiar) for about 70 percent cheaper?
 
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Default Re: Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

Hey admedia,

Where you able to locate a used Kornit Avalanche? I am interested in purchasing a used Avalanche but they are really hard to find at the moment.
 
Old August 16th, 2016 Aug 16, 2016 12:01:59 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

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Hello,

I am currently looking to purchase a kornit printer, either avalanche or storm. The avalanche is veryyy expensive so we decided to hold off on the avalanche as make this our second kornit purchase a few months down the line as new is too expensive and we cant find any used ones anywhere in the US for sale.

The storm we have found for sale, about 5 year old plus models that all claim to work great, one was on ebay, few others I found on forums etc. I plan on visiting the kornit machine before purchasing and also getting a kornit technican to come with me. I figured thats the best so he can inspect the machine and tell me if I need to repair anything and the life of the machine... I am able to get a used kornit storm for about 50k is the going price up or down.

So my question is anyone have experience or any advice on going this route, or would you still suggest buying a new machine for 200k instead and financing it? I figured if I buy a used kornit thats in working condition, the worst that could happen is i have to repair a few things on it down the road, but I dont see it costing me anywhere near 150k plus for the repairs to make it even with buying a new one.

Any experiences first hand with this and anything I should look out for?

Also side note, do you have to buy an adelco gas dryer for kornit dtg printers or can I get a brown 9 foot oven gas dryer (looks similiar) for about 70 percent cheaper?
It all depends on the printer that you are interested in. Me personally, I wouldn't by anything past the Kornit Storm II 931 Series. Parts are still available as well as being able to upgrade the OS from 32-bit Windows XP to 64-bit Windows 7. We have upgraded our machine to Windows 7 and have 8GB of RAM vs the 4GB and the machine runs flawless.

Previous machines will be stuck running Windows XP which will freeze consistantly when printing garments. $50k is a good price for a used machine! Well worth the purchase especially if it was a first gen model that you can spend a little extra money on and upgrade!
 
 
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Default Re: Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

We just sold our Kornit Storm earlier this year and had a real hard time selling it, finally sold for about $35K. As far as the dryer, you can use any brand of dryer just so you can get the garments to the right temp for the right amount of time. That was the hardest thing for us because our Kornit was in an enclosed room but the dryer was not so depending on the ambient temp & humidity in our shop we were constantly having to adjust dryer time/temp. Also you want to do everything you can to run that machine as many hours a day as possible and make sure to print something every day if you can or the nozzles will clog up.
 
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Default Re: Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

Our experience with Kornit products has been constant things dying - they are always small but the time put into maintaining them is very high. I just don't suggest it - the ROI numbers don't take into account how long you will spend working on them.
 
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Oh - and this time our Main Board went down. The price to fix is about half what the machine is worth at this point - so we are just parting it out as we can...
 
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Default Re: Advice Needed - Buying Used Kornit Storm

Thanks for the advice guys, I went with a different printer than Kornit due to all the complaints. Also it seems used is really risky for an industrial DTG.
 






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