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[Kornit General] Breeze User Experience

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Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 6:18:25 AM -   #76 (permalink)
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Poly is a pain. Low and slow for the dwell/temp settings on the dryer. With 50/50 blends you will need higher %'s of fixation but it's doable
 
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Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 6:24:19 AM -   #77 (permalink)
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Here's the thing with polyester and 50/50's it does print wonderfully on them it looks great, until you dry it. As soon as you dry it all goes to hell unless you know what to do. I dry cotton shirts at 323F if I have a dark color 50/50 that drops down to 245F and 100% poly I dry at 200F. I learned that the higher the temp and the higher the percentage of poly in a shirt. The dye in the polyester turns into a gas and then gets trapped in the still wet ink. So if your using white on say a red 50/50 sweat shirt with out dropping the temp the white ink will be a reddish pink. The same on 100% Polyester. Now with the temp that low it takes longer to dry the 50/50's aren't that bad it takes roughly 8-10 mins give or take. 100% poly is the one that sucks it will take 40 to 60 mins for it to dry and not be tacky it depends on how much white is used. So yes it does "Print just fine" it's the end product that could end up looking like crap until you get a feel for it.
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 6:49:35 AM -   #78 (permalink)
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Have you tried using a heat press to dry either the 100%/50-50 or 100% poly ?
 
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 7:03:38 AM -   #79 (permalink)
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Heat press won't work in general with the Kornit but I have tried a mix of using my normal dryer and then hitting it with the heat press. I have had mixed results doing that but most of the time it's just not good
 
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We were thinking of using sublimation for the 100% poly. Not very expensive and we can solve the poly problem. What % of the shirts are 100% poly. I suspect not very much ?
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 7:22:50 AM -   #81 (permalink)
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Not much at all 4% maybe probably less. For me. We screen print a ton of them because it's not an issue over there.
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 7:25:18 AM -   #82 (permalink)
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Is that because they flash the white before other colors are added ?
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 7:31:10 AM -   #83 (permalink)
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Yes they flash the white in between colors.
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 10:25:17 AM -   #84 (permalink)
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Do you think the cost / shirt in term of ink is about right ? They say $.88/sq ft
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 10:27:34 AM -   #85 (permalink)
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yea I think it's pretty close to that I think dark colored shirts are a hair more because your using white ink
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 10:57:57 AM -   #86 (permalink)
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Well, I just e-mailed the guy and asked him to put a quote together for me. Wish me luck and thanks for all your help. If you are ever down south, be happy to take u to lunch !
 
Old January 9th, 2014 Jan 9, 2014 2:32:28 PM -   #87 (permalink)
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Hey Ghoster how do you prep complex files for the kornit?
I have a storm 2 so maybe its different. We dont use quick p designer I just use photoshop and the Quick P Production that is on the pc attatched to the Storm.

The problems I have is there is no background removal option which makes it horrible for black knockout on black shirts and I am not quite sure how to remove the background colour neatly in photoshop without getting horrible jagged edges.

The machine I love to hate sometimes It prints well and all is good and sometimes I pretty much stand there hitting my head against the wall.

I think they should atleast come up with some decent rip software after all that is what rips are designed to do!!

For exmaple how would you remove the black to print onto a black shirt for this job?
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Old January 10th, 2014 Jan 10, 2014 4:38:07 AM -   #88 (permalink)
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First off I love the irony of us discussing how to do a picture for neofelx on a kornit lol. Have you tried to delete the black channels in the image? I just saved that image and played with it alittle in photoshop. Given it's not the best way to do it but all I did was select all the black and deleted it. It didn't look that bad. I would try to choke the image that might give you a smoother edges. And if all that didn't work for me I'd go ask our graphic designers for help lol. But that should mostly be it I would think.
 
Old January 10th, 2014 Jan 10, 2014 5:00:09 AM -   #89 (permalink)
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Ok....Really stupid question, but one we better ask. We assume that the Kornit will print on white shirts. That it will not automatically pre-treat every shirt or lay white down on every shirt. I know, really stupid question but just had to ask
 
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Not a stupid question. It does pretreat everything but you far less on a white shirt and there are basic settings one of them is a white shirt setting and it turns off the white. there's also a setup tool that allows you to make custom settings. So all you do is select them from a drop down menu hit ok and your good to go.
 






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