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Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

 
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Old March 15th, 2007 Mar 15, 2007 4:43:26 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Anyone using them yet? I went to see a live demo in N.J in December, they look way better than the solevent cmyk inks. With the waterbase inks, the Kornit now sprays tap water on the shirts with a solution that mixes in with a 5 gallon container which only cost around $17US, no staining, and perfect spraying. With the new version of white they have now for the waterbase, you can actually over due the amount of ink layed onto the t-shirt which is good for sweatshirts or fleece and it saves ink on t-shirts. I would say it's the closest looking inks next to plastisol.

I want to know before I take the step into changing over my system.
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Old March 15th, 2007 Mar 15, 2007 4:48:28 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Sounds like a version of discharge inks....keep us posted if you take the plunge.


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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Actually it's not. Dosen't a discharge remove the colour out of the fabric. This slaps the ink on the shirts.
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Cool...can't wait to hear more.


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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

I think they look better because the ink has a higher viscosity, they can get away with this because of the industrial printhead being used a spectra 128 I think(about $2,000+ each if I remember correctly). I have heard some good and some bad about the auto pretreatment they use, something about them using to much, coming out with great prints but it peels off due to the amount of treatment....cant wait to see how it does in the field.
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Thanks for the answers. Luckely the Kornit has many options to control the pretreat stage, from a 0 spray to a 40 spray which a lot. I guess it's just about getting to know your machine. But there is a lot of control once you know what your doing.
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

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I think they look better because the ink has a higher viscosity, they can get away with this because of the industrial printhead being used a spectra 128 I think(about $2,000+ each if I remember correctly). I have heard some good and some bad about the auto pretreatment they use, something about them using to much, coming out with great prints but it peels off due to the amount of treatment....cant wait to see how it does in the field.
heads are more like $20,000!

Auto-pretreat shouldn't be a problem once its been configured properly by the operator. Had the same over pre-treatment on a sample made from Kornit a few months ago but the latest one I've received has been far better. I'd have more faith in a machine doing my pretreatment rather then myself.

I think Kornit really are making big strides in the DTG scene but are very hush hush and humble about it.
 
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Yes a machine doing the spray will be 100% consistant everytime. I totally agree
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

...what about printing cmyk on black garments, any experience on that? craigslst AT gmail.com for email
 
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Default Re: Kornit's CMYK waterbased inks.

Printing the waterbase CMYK inks on black look incredible! The cyan and Magenta are more true of there colour than the solevent based inks the use right now. With the Kornit there is so many options you have to print your garments, from the amount of spray to how much ink you want to lay on the shirt with the control of your DPI settings. You can actually go overboard printing the white and colours on black shirts, they come out shiney and rubbery. But again that was testing it to it's fullest when i was at the demo showing in N.J. However this could be a good thing for printing on sweatshirts hoodies Etc, it will even out on those thicker garments.
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