New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper - Page 2 - T-Shirt Forums
 

Hi, Unregistered. | Today's Posts

T-Shirt Forums
User Name
Password

Register Today For Free!

Forgot Your Password?





Site Navigation








+   T-Shirt Forums > T-Shirt Industry Information > Heat Press and Heat Transfers > Inkjet Heat Transfer Paper
Discuss the different inkjet transfer papers currently on the market.



New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

Like Tree8Likes

 
Share This Thread Thread Tools
Old October 31st, 2017 Oct 31, 2017 4:57:42 PM -   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


lben's Avatar
 
You can call me: Loretta
Member Since: Jun 2008
Location: Ashtabula, OH
Posts: 2,985
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 837
Thanked 623 Times in 561 Posts


Default Re: New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

Let's start with the basics. Heat transfer and sublimation are two entirely different methods of printing, even though they both use an inkjet printer and paper and a heat press. Sublimation requires specific sublimation paper, sublimation ink, and higher temps and pressure.

You cannot sublimate on cotton and if you use, say a 50/50 cotton/poly blend your image will be faded because the sublimation ink will only adhere to the polyester fabric. You might see it nicely right after printing but the first time you wash it, the image will fall off the cotton fibers.

Go to Conde.com and watch their videos on sublimation. Just the fact that you have a white image on a black shirt tells me you're using the wrong paper. If I'm wrong on that, I'll let you know.
Ibadsafi likes this.
__________________
- Loretta -
"In all thy ways acknowledge the Lord and he shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:6
www.DistinctiveImprinting.com
 
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old October 31st, 2017 Oct 31, 2017 5:20:59 PM -   #17 (permalink)
Forum Member
T-Shirt Member
Thread Starter

Ibadsafi's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2017
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

Quote:
Originally Posted by lben
Let's start with the basics. Heat transfer and sublimation are two entirely different methods of printing, even though they both use an inkjet printer and paper and a heat press. Sublimation requires specific sublimation paper, sublimation ink, and higher temps and pressure.

You cannot sublimate on cotton and if you use, say a 50/50 cotton/poly blend your image will be faded because the sublimation ink will only adhere to the polyester fabric. You might see it nicely right after printing but the first time you wash it, the image will fall off the cotton fibers.

Go to Conde.com and watch their videos on sublimation. Just the fact that you have a white image on a black shirt tells me you're using the wrong paper. If I'm wrong on that, I'll let you know.
Thanks a lot for your information.
I have both types of papers, a. sublimation papers for mugs and plates b. Dark/Light heat transfer papers for T-shirts and Caps .
I used Dark heat transfer printed by sublimation ink for black t-shirt which results faded after washing and as you see attached pictures I used light heat transfer paper printed by dye ink for 100% polyester and 100% Cotton, the result after washing is the same as after heat transfer but the 100% cotton shirt transferred result looks faded in some dots.

What type of fabric material are best for
NEENAH 3G Dark heat transfer paper
and JPSS Light heat transfer paper?

Kindly let me know.

And I really appreciate everyone reply over-here.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20171031_193230.jpg (1,004.3 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg 20171031_193347.jpg (432.6 KB, 8 views)
 
Old October 31st, 2017 Oct 31, 2017 5:47:38 PM -   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


into the T's Avatar
 
You can call me: Edward
Member Since: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,063
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 197
Thanked 378 Times in 356 Posts


Default Re: New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibadsafi

What type of fabric material are best for
NEENAH 3G Dark heat transfer paper
and JPSS Light heat transfer paper?
not so much fabric, as ink

you need sublimation ink for mugs/plates/100% polyester garments with sublimation papers

you need pigment ink for jpss and 3g with inkjet papers
jpss works best with 50/50 white (or light tee's)
 
 
Old October 31st, 2017 Oct 31, 2017 5:47:40 PM -   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


lben's Avatar
 
You can call me: Loretta
Member Since: Jun 2008
Location: Ashtabula, OH
Posts: 2,985
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 837
Thanked 623 Times in 561 Posts


Default Re: New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

You cannot use sublimation ink on cotton or on regular heat transfer paper. Sublimation requires specific blanks as well as specific ink and paper. They must have a polyester coating. Shirts for sublimation are polyester. I suggest you go to CobraInk.com and buy some pigment ink for your printer along with refillable ink carts for it and some head cleaner. If you want to print on cotton use your transfer paper and pigment ink. Dye ink (not sublimation ink) will run and wash off when wet. To get some really nice, long lasting prints on cotton, use chromablast ink and paper. But I think it only works on light fabric unless the technology has changed since I last used it and they can print on dark fabrics.

You can't mix ink and papers. Sublimation ink is absorbed into the sublimation paper. When heat and pressure are applied to the paper while it is on a polyester shirt or other poly coated product, the heat turns the ink into a gas. The heat also causes the pores in the paper and substrate to open. The gas is then forced into the pores. Once heat and pressure are removed, the pores shut, thereby trapping the gas beneath the surface of the poly fabric or substrate.

Regular heat transfers simply put the ink on the surface of the fabric.
Ibadsafi likes this.
__________________
- Loretta -
"In all thy ways acknowledge the Lord and he shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:6
www.DistinctiveImprinting.com
 
Old October 31st, 2017 Oct 31, 2017 5:58:03 PM -   #20 (permalink)
Forum Member
T-Shirt Member
Thread Starter

Ibadsafi's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2017
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Default Re: New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

Quote:
Originally Posted by into the T
not so much fabric, as ink

you need sublimation ink for mugs/plates/100% polyester garments with sublimation papers

you need pigment ink for jpss and 3g with inkjet papers
jpss works best with 50/50 white (or light tee's)
Thank you so much to all! without this forum and you guys I was totally lost, now It looks I am coming to right track, few hours back I had no knowledge at all, I ordered pigment ink with 3g and jpss papers.
Perhaps I need second printer for sublimation ink and sublimation papers too!!
 
Old October 31st, 2017 Oct 31, 2017 6:07:26 PM -   #21 (permalink)
Senior Member
Certified T-Shirt Junkie


lben's Avatar
 
You can call me: Loretta
Member Since: Jun 2008
Location: Ashtabula, OH
Posts: 2,985
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 837
Thanked 623 Times in 561 Posts


Default Re: New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper

I have one printer that I use different inks in. I just clean the heads really good when I have to change ink.
Ibadsafi likes this.
__________________
- Loretta -
"In all thy ways acknowledge the Lord and he shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:6
www.DistinctiveImprinting.com
 






This is a discussion about New to T-Shirt Forum! Having Trouble with Sublimation Ink and Transfer paper that was posted in the Inkjet Heat Transfer Paper section of the forums.

Quick Reply
Type Your Message Below:
Do NOT Post Self Promotional URLs, Advertisements, Sales Offers or Requests. It is against our Forum Guidelines.
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the T-Shirt Forums, you must first register.


Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Your username must be between 2 and 16 characters and contain only letters and numbers (no special characters like hyphens, *, ', ~, etc)
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

A confirmation email will be sent to this address, so please make sure it is accurate and that your email software is set to allow emails from our domain: t-shirtforums.com (sometimes the confirmation email gets accidently filtered into Yahoo/AOL/Hotmail/Gmail spam folders)
.

You won't be able to post until your email address has been confirmed. We take your privacy very seriously. Feel free to review our Privacy Policy in a new window.
Email Address:
First Name
It's nice to be able to be on a "first name" basis with the people you talk to in a forum. This is a totally optional field; if you like being on a first name basis, please enter your first name below :)

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What ink and transfer paper do I need to print t-shirts and mousepads? lucky1one Inkjet Heat Transfer Paper 26 February 26th, 2019 02:07 AM
Looking for high quality ink, transfer paper and printer EvanIsgone Heat Presses - Equipment 9 November 24th, 2017 01:45 PM
Which Heat Transfer paper can you recommend? Plastisol - Laser - Sublimation MaidInIceland Heat Press and Heat Transfers 3 May 19th, 2016 02:02 PM
How to remove transfer paper ink from shirt? MyTeeFineShirts Heat Press and Heat Transfers 1 February 16th, 2015 08:20 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2014 T-ShirtForums.com. All rights reserved.