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Old June 21st, 2015 Jun 21, 2015 9:42:54 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Tonight I used opaque paper for the very first time on neoprene koozies. Because it was opaque I thought it would be ok to use on darker colors than the JPSS I normally use. A friend is going to Disney and requested I make these to keep their drinks cold. The red one was the first I did. Ok, I made a newbie mistake and forgot to remove the backing before pressing, first time around, lol -- but figured it was good bc I had forgotten to pre-press to get any moisture out anyway. I took a new printed transfer, peeled and pressed it. The opaque design once pressed, came out PINK! (??!?!?) I assumed maybe it was bc I had pre-pressed it, and did the royal blue next. The design pressed as a light blue... Next I tried the gray and the light pink -- no problem -- transfer remained white... Last, was the hot pink koozie -- which also became pink when pressed!! It appears only the lighter colors remained white!

Has anyone seen opaque paper do this before?? I thought opaque could be used on ANY COLOR and STAY WHITE??

Fortunately my friend still LOVES the koozies -- but I'm thanking God I didn't do this as a job for a customer! Please help me with your suggestions and thoughts on this...
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And now the hot pink koozie...
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Tonight I used opaque paper for the very first time on neoprene koozies. Because it was opaque I thought it would be ok to use on darker colors than the JPSS I normally use. A friend is going to Disney and requested I make these to keep their drinks cold. The red one was the first I did. Ok, I made a newbie mistake and forgot to remove the backing before pressing, first time around, lol -- but figured it was good bc I had forgotten to pre-press to get any moisture out anyway. I took a new printed transfer, peeled and pressed it. The opaque design once pressed, came out PINK! (??!?!?) I assumed maybe it was bc I had pre-pressed it, and did the royal blue next. The design pressed as a light blue... Next I tried the gray and the light pink -- no problem -- transfer remained white... Last, was the hot pink koozie -- which also became pink when pressed!! It appears only the lighter colors remained white!

Has anyone seen opaque paper do this before?? I thought opaque could be used on ANY COLOR and STAY WHITE??

Fortunately my friend still LOVES the koozies -- but I'm thanking God I didn't do this as a job for a customer! Please help me with your suggestions and thoughts on this...
The dye on the neoprene is actually disperse dye ... in other words it is sublimation dye. Neoprene is a sublimatable material.

Opaque transfers typically will pick up the dye migration and that is the reason most manufacturers recommend not using them on 50/50 or 100% poly dark garments, and suggest to use 100% cotton material for those type transfers.

50/50 garments also have disperse dye from the factory color, whereas 100% cotton colors are organic dyes and not "disperse".

Having said all that ... some opaques papers may have less of an issue with this, but I doubt it would cure it 100%.

But why not just sublimate blank white ones like the pros do?

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Thanks for the education! All my reading in T-shirt forums, and I've never read that before! I actually did purchase the white ones as well, to put photos and such with JPSS, but thought I could use the darker colored koozies with the opaque... Thanks so much for the information! I'll have to look at vinyl and/or plastisol...
 
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Thanks for the education! All my reading in T-shirt forums, and I've never read that before! I actually did purchase the white ones as well, to put photos and such with JPSS, but thought I could use the darker colored koozies with the opaque... Thanks so much for the information! I'll have to look at vinyl and/or plastisol...
You'll find some discussion of these a bit in the sublimation section of the forum here. Good luck.
 
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Thanks mgparish! I don't normally read too much of the sublimation section, but I definitely will! I have thought of doing sublimation for a while, but I don't really have enough work to justify the expensive inks. Once I have the right opportunity to grow, then I'm sure I'll jump on it, LOL. I love that you can do dog tags, bowls, and other hard substrates in addition to garments. I just don't know a lot of people that wear 100% polyester, so I've stayed with the JPSS for the time being...
 
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One more question; would I have the same issue pressing a plastisol transfer on to a neoprene koozie? Or should I try to buy a better material koozie sold (scuba foam?) that the ink wouldn't do the same thing?
 
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Thanks mgparish! I don't normally read too much of the sublimation section, but I definitely will! I have thought of doing sublimation for a while, but I don't really have enough work to justify the expensive inks. Once I have the right opportunity to grow, then I'm sure I'll jump on it, LOL. I love that you can do dog tags, bowls, and other hard substrates in addition to garments. I just don't know a lot of people that wear 100% polyester, so I've stayed with the JPSS for the time being...
You can get sublimation transfers made crazy cheap from SK Manufacturing.

They do Koozies there themselves so he can help you with tips and tricks.

Dave is a member here and runs an ad here all the time. 16 x 20's something like buck and no min qnty.

If you already got a press then no need to fuss around with sub inks and maintaining a sublimation printer.

https://www.t-shirtforums.com/members/skdave.html

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One more question; would I have the same issue pressing a plastisol transfer on to a neoprene koozie? Or should I try to buy a better material koozie sold (scuba foam?) that the ink wouldn't do the same thing?
I haven't tried, I do know some white underbase plastisol is designed to resist dye migration, but I don't have any first hand knowledge on that.

I would defer to the screen printers here for that.
 
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Would this happen with black koozies too? Can't try it out bc I didn't buy any of those...
 
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Great info about outsourcing the dye sub transfers! I hadn't really thought of that... But at those prices, I will definitely keep it in mind! I will have to go on YouTube to see how the hard substrates are done. I don't have a mug press but I will see what I can do with my clam-she'll press... Thanks again!!
 






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