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Old June 26th, 2012 Jun 26, 2012 1:01:04 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi , I am quite new to printing and have had good results so far but I wonder if there is a spray or other method for sealing the shirt after printing? Also is there any pre-treatment that would help in any way ? Thanks
 
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

There was a post that might help, https://www.t-shirtforums.com/inkjet-heat-transfer-paper/t190742.html atigerwannabe's post I'm referring to.I searched the forum with Krylon.
 
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Hi gheenee and thanks for the quick response! Have just checked out the kylon spray and it seems to be exactly what I have been wondering about! Anyway have you tried this personally?? Or know of any results? Thanks again
 
 
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

I still wonder just how this works. Krylon is definitely not designed to be a fabric spray, it's designed for non-porous, preferably pre-painted surfaces. It's not meant to be applied to flexible substrates, subjected to heat, or washed.

I'm not saying this doesn't work. I'm just wondering how much Krylon is even left on the shirt after the first wash.
 
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Hello again! I can honestly say Yes! It does work! I'm the one who have been saying that for years now!. Back when I was doing transfers, they would wash out. You could still see the image but, it looked faded. Being an Screen Printer too, I use to make a screen that use Clear Plastisol Ink to cover my images. It worked but, I needed a dryer. So, one day I had a can of "Clear Kylon" Spray. You can still buy it at any Hardware store. Rustolium is the name it is sold under. I hope I spelled Rustolium correctly. "Clear Kylon Spray" is the key. Well, back then, we didn't have the Trim-Free Papers we have today. Back then, we would have to trim around our image. So, what I did was simple. After I applied the graphic to the T-Shirt, (here are 2 things I did way back then) I would make the design a bit softer by stretching the design(meaning) i would stretch the design in both directions to make it softer. I would use the "Clear Kylon Spray"(it is the same as the Pre-Wash you have to do with black shirts now!") I would spray the design(only the design) with a light coating of the "Kylon" Spray. I would place the T-Shirt back on the 16x20 press and I would use a 16x20 teflon coated sheet or I would use..back then I would use an 11 x17 white sheet of paper. Then, I would heat the graphic and t-shirt for about 25 secs. When it was done, I would have a shirt that would never, ever fade. So, yes! it does work. I'm the guy who told you about it. The original guy!
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Old June 26th, 2012 Jun 26, 2012 10:17:14 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

Just let me know if my theory holds any water or not! And yes Fenrir is correct in stating what he said. I know the product wasn't meant to do the things for t-shirts but, I tried it anyway and it works. I think you can buy a can for $ 3.00 or $4.00 dollars.
 
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

I would also like to hear if it worked.
 
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The other thing is, JPSS gets such good reviews that if you use that particular transfer how do you even tell if the spray did it or not? I'm sure when you first started doing this transfers were hardly as good as they are today, it seems like it's only relatively recently that they were commercially viable at all. Sounds like you found a trick to be able to do it before the rest of us - I wonder if the polymer in JPSS is chemically similar to Krylon.

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I don't know anybody else but JPSS fades for me. Beside it leves polymer window on pastel.
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

So, did anyone try the Krylon Spray yet? Come On Guys! If you are doing Heat Applied Graphics, I and you don't want your designs to fade quickly, use Krylon spray. And no I'm not a spokes person for them! I know that it is what works for me.
 
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Hi , I am quite new to printing and have had good results so far but I wonder if there is a spray or other method for sealing the shirt after printing? Also is there any pre-treatment that would help in any way ? Thanks
It's not necessary to preheat or seal if you use pigment inks and good papers. I have tshirts many years old and still look great.
 
Old July 4th, 2012 Jul 4, 2012 4:25:11 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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I don't know anybody else but JPSS fades for me. Beside it leves polymer window on pastel.
All non-weed free papers show polymer on pastels, some more than others.

JPSS is very wash durable if:

1. Use only on 50/50 tshirts.
2. Use only pigment inks.
3. After pressing recover with parchment and repress 10 seconds.
4. Press with heavy pressure and at the max temp suggested.

JPSS is a light paper and if used on preshrink 100% cotton the fibers break to easily and cause a white fuzzy surface after extended washing (piling) this can make the shirt look faded.

On a good quality white 50/50 there is virtually no window on JPSS after washing, if applied correctly.

Transjet 2 is permanent with pigment inks on either 50/50 or 100% preshrunk cotton. It is heavier initially until after a few washes, then the hand is almost gone, just enough to keep the tshirt durable but not enough hand to be worried about. Some backgound window will show with TJ2 even on whites, so it must be trimmed or use a solid design shape.
 
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

wooow.....I HAVE to try this...

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Hello again! I can honestly say Yes! It does work! I'm the one who have been saying that for years now!. Back when I was doing transfers, they would wash out. You could still see the image but, it looked faded. Being an Screen Printer too, I use to make a screen that use Clear Plastisol Ink to cover my images. It worked but, I needed a dryer. So, one day I had a can of "Clear Kylon" Spray. You can still buy it at any Hardware store. Rustolium is the name it is sold under. I hope I spelled Rustolium correctly. "Clear Kylon Spray" is the key. Well, back then, we didn't have the Trim-Free Papers we have today. Back then, we would have to trim around our image. So, what I did was simple. After I applied the graphic to the T-Shirt, (here are 2 things I did way back then) I would make the design a bit softer by stretching the design(meaning) i would stretch the design in both directions to make it softer. I would use the "Clear Kylon Spray"(it is the same as the Pre-Wash you have to do with black shirts now!") I would spray the design(only the design) with a light coating of the "Kylon" Spray. I would place the T-Shirt back on the 16x20 press and I would use a 16x20 teflon coated sheet or I would use..back then I would use an 11 x17 white sheet of paper. Then, I would heat the graphic and t-shirt for about 25 secs. When it was done, I would have a shirt that would never, ever fade. So, yes! it does work. I'm the guy who told you about it. The original guy!
 
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Can you tell me exactly which krylon spray it is?? There are a few different clear krylon sprays on the market. Thanks
 
Old July 12th, 2012 Jul 12, 2012 6:55:24 PM -   #15 (permalink)
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

If you were to go to any Hardware store and ask for the Rustolium Brand. I can't spell the name riight. But ask a clerk for the Clear Krylon Spray. They will know what you are talking about. Becareful it is very strong. You will need good ventilation to use this stuff. I know it is not for T-Shirts but it does Seal Your Transfers because if you know anything about Transfers, they sit on top of the fabric. So, therefore you need to put a Coating On Top of the Transfer to keep it from Fading. I don't care what kind of ink you use(inkjet, laser) it will fade!. The only one that doesn't fade is the Plastisol on Transfer paper(hot spit, goof-proof sublimations, or DTG). So, with all of that said, there are those that say if you have a certain type of ink that they won't fade. Well that maybe the case, but, i've never used those special inkjet inks. All I know is the spray works.
 
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