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Old October 11th, 2012 Oct 11, 2012 1:38:50 PM -   #91 (permalink)
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You cannot run clear coat through an air brush . You would need a compressor and a decent spray gun . The Krylon is more like laquer 1k clear coat . What my friend sprays on vinyl is Simonz car laquer . Don't think you can buy laquer in the USA ? . We can't get Krylon here .
I am guessing its very thin as if not it would set very hard and be stiff . Clear coat is a mare to spray also . Trash in your line , in the air etc .
I am looking forward to the video an images . I thank you for sharing this .
I don't know if Krylon itself is available in bulk bottles but clear coat acrylic is available for airbrushing.

Polly Scale Acrylic Clear Coat Gloss

I didn't go back and check and could be mistaken, but I though that the Krylon being discussed was more like an acrylic than a lacquer. Nail finishers (manicurist) also use clear acrylic for finger nails I believe.

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Old October 11th, 2012 Oct 11, 2012 1:42:09 PM -   #92 (permalink)
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

Various brands of lacquer are still available in the US, but except for model hobby use, they tend to be called something else. The Simoniz product isn't a true lacquer, but an acrylic much like Krylon. It's probably available at auto parts stores in the US.

The big change in the US over the years is phasing out several of the more nasty volatile solvents used in these sprays, notably xylene and toluene. It varies from state-to-state, with California among the strictest, but many hardware stores no longer sell these as solvents, or even a generic lacquer thinner.

Experimentation would be needed, but I can see that it's not the acrylic overcoat that's actually doing the job of repelling water on the vinyl -- and therefore making it more washfast -- but that the solvents are closing the porous nature of the top layer. In effect, what it's doing is simulating how an eco-solvent printer works, but as a separate step. (There are differences, of course, but the overall effect would be similar.)

If I were to do this (I don't do vinyls for darks) I'd probably look for an enameling spray with the less aggressive eco-friendly solvents. Easier on my sinuses and less chance of bleeding the pigments. Strong solvents like xylene make me violently ill, so I have to be careful with the chemicals I play with.
 
Old October 11th, 2012 Oct 11, 2012 3:16:28 PM -   #93 (permalink)
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MGPARRISH: Thanks - Great Post. Now we are getting somewhere.

I use Plastisol in all of my production stuff... I just send it through the cutter and apply it all at once... well, almost at one... 5 seconds to get the transfer to stick, and another 20-30 to bond the plastisol clear on top of the transfer into the shirt. This has by far been the best looking result of all options I have tried, and by far the fastest.

As for Claria Inks, yes, they do bleed in the black and red inks, and you are correct... if you turn down the saturation, it seems to fix a lot if it. However, with the Plastisol sealing it, you can literally take the shirt off the press and wear it in the rain, and you will never get a single run. Its the best way I have found to seal a shirt. Now, yes, it adds a little to the bottom line, and it does add a little "hand" to the shirt, but your shirt will feel like it has been screen printed. The main reason I do this is because I know my customers will not remember every time how to properly wash a shirt with a transfer on it (inside out and dont put it in the dryer with high heat). Plastisol fixes any of these issues for me, because it needs to be pressed at 385 degrees, it is tolerable to heat, and because it covers the transfer, it protects it from other clothing rubbing against it, like jeans and such...

As for the videos - Yes, I am trying my best to get those done. I spent the entire day out of the shop taking to a couple of companies about doing their uniforms, so I got nothing done, plus I am looking into opening a new shop at a 2nd location, so things have been a little busy around here.

I also want to do a video showing how the Plastisol setup looks and works as well. Thats something I have been wanting to make for a while.
 
 
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MGPARRISH: Thanks - Great Post. Now we are getting somewhere.

I use Plastisol in all of my production stuff... I just send it through the cutter and apply it all at once... well, almost at one... 5 seconds to get the transfer to stick, and another 20-30 to bond the plastisol clear on top of the transfer into the shirt. This has by far been the best looking result of all options I have tried, and by far the fastest.

As for Claria Inks, yes, they do bleed in the black and red inks, and you are correct... if you turn down the saturation, it seems to fix a lot if it. However, with the Plastisol sealing it, you can literally take the shirt off the press and wear it in the rain, and you will never get a single run. Its the best way I have found to seal a shirt. Now, yes, it adds a little to the bottom line, and it does add a little "hand" to the shirt, but your shirt will feel like it has been screen printed. The main reason I do this is because I know my customers will not remember every time how to properly wash a shirt with a transfer on it (inside out and dont put it in the dryer with high heat). Plastisol fixes any of these issues for me, because it needs to be pressed at 385 degrees, it is tolerable to heat, and because it covers the transfer, it protects it from other clothing rubbing against it, like jeans and such...

As for the videos - Yes, I am trying my best to get those done. I spent the entire day out of the shop taking to a couple of companies about doing their uniforms, so I got nothing done, plus I am looking into opening a new shop at a 2nd location, so things have been a little busy around here.

I also want to do a video showing how the Plastisol setup looks and works as well. Thats something I have been wanting to make for a while.
Yes, Murphy's law applies to customers and washing. I always figure worse case. The only opaque I could bear to sell is this stuff.

It is the only single step paper on the market that will not crack under any conditions, I've tested all of them.

It has no wash restrictions. The hottest dryer does not effect at all. Although dark garments should always be washed cold (even a blank shirt) due to the basic shirt color not going weak, this stuff can go hot wash and hot dry.

The OEM has been having trouble supplying this but until it came out I wouldn't sell opaques except for custom plastisols.

The suggested wash instructions ...

"No special wash laundry instructions are necessary"

I have brutalized this stuff in testing, no issues, and with pigment inks I never worry about bleed out. I don't have a vinyl cutter but it can be cut.

http://transferpapershack.com/images...ructions-1.pdf
 
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Is that paper anywere in the uk ?
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Is that paper anywere in the uk ?
The OEM manufacturer of the paper is

IYATECH TECHNOLOGIES

You can call them for UK availabilty and suppliers.

In the US it is usually re-branded and goes under various brand names, but the supply here is scarce and the OEM when I called them didn't give me any clear answers just looked around for other supplier stock for me.
 
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Thanks Hal look into it )
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

Where do you buy your clear plastisol transfer paper? I am frustrated with fading in a hot dryer. Can't seem to find a source. A thin, clear, matte finish would be ideal.
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Anybody every try spraying on a plastisol clear coat after?
Can we put plastisol clear coat in a spray can?
 
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i agree with everything he said d^_^
 
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Default Re: Heat transfer sealant spray?

hi do you have a link to the video you make regarding printing dark iron on t-shirt transfers
 
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So will this knylon spray keep it from cracking in the wash as well ? Or do i need a waterproof spray ?
 






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