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TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

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Old November 3rd, 2010 Nov 3, 2010 10:33:54 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Materials/Equipment Details

Paper:
3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque (same as BlueGrid, ImageJet for Darks, etc.)
Printer: Epson Stylus cx9400
Inks: Cobra Pigment Inks
Shirt: Alstyle 100% Cotton (black)
Press: Geo Knight 12" x 14" swing away

Results


I failed to take a quality picture of the transfers after pressing and before washing , but I can tell you that to my eye they look pretty much identical after washing and drying as they did before.

Color:

The color on both of these papers is great. Nice and vibrant. The only con is with printing black. Both papers absorb ink, so the black ends up looking more like a dark gray. Other than that, the color looks great and I am very satisfied. The 3G seems to have just a very, very slight better color depth, but you really have to stare at it (I have 12 years experience in large format digital printing, color matching, color profiling, etc., so I am able to notice these things). To the untrained eye, it wouldn't be noticeable.

Fading:

There was very minimal fading on both. After washing and drying, the graphic is still vibrant and colorful.

Hand:

The hand of both papers seem the same to me. They are a little stiff, but thin enough to not make a stink about. One thing I noticed is the shirt needs to be ironed. When it comes out of the wash, the transfer is pretty crinkled and wrinkled. Once ironed (inside out), they looked great. After letting it sit a while, handling it and moving it, the Coastal Opaque seems to have begun to wrinkle just a bit while the 3G Opaque is still smooth and wrinkle free.

Conclusion:
I feel that both of these transfer papers perform pretty well. It would be very hard for me to suggest one over the other. If I absolutely had to, I guess I would go with the 3G Opaque for the very minor advantages above. Another small pro of the 3G is it doesn't stink like the Coastal Opaque. Those of you who have used it probably know what I am talking about.

Either way, I would use both of these transfer papers.
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Old November 3rd, 2010 Nov 3, 2010 11:03:39 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Old December 1st, 2010 Dec 1, 2010 12:01:13 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

hey does the finish feel after u wash the shirt feel kind of plasticy?
 
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

on the 3g i meant
 
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hey does the finish feel after u wash the shirt feel kind of plasticy?
I don't think so, but it is pretty stiff feeling.
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

I don't know if its the photo but even though I haven't got your color profiling experience I can see a marked difference of the vibrancy between the two.
 
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Thanks for sharing the photos and results!
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

Hi Chad;
Did you by any chance compare these to iron all? I used a grid paper when I 1st started doing transfers & found them to have quite a bit of hand by comparison. This was a number of yrs. ago though so I imagine those papers have improved since then also. I'm still using a c88+ after all these yrs. so is the difference in the inks a factor?
 
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

yes the 3g has better depth. the browns seem to be clearer. Ive never heard of 3g and was trying to choose between coastal and inktra opaque....now i have another to choose from.
 
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodBoughtChad
Materials/Equipment Details

Paper:
3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque (same as BlueGrid, ImageJet for Darks, etc.)
Printer: Epson Stylus cx9400
Inks: Cobra Pigment Inks
Shirt: Alstyle 100% Cotton (black)
Press: Geo Knight 12" x 14" swing away

Results


I failed to take a quality picture of the transfers after pressing and before washing , but I can tell you that to my eye they look pretty much identical after washing and drying as they did before.

Color:

The color on both of these papers is great. Nice and vibrant. The only con is with printing black. Both papers absorb ink, so the black ends up looking more like a dark gray. Other than that, the color looks great and I am very satisfied. The 3G seems to have just a very, very slight better color depth, but you really have to stare at it (I have 12 years experience in large format digital printing, color matching, color profiling, etc., so I am able to notice these things). To the untrained eye, it wouldn't be noticeable.

Fading:

There was very minimal fading on both. After washing and drying, the graphic is still vibrant and colorful.

Hand:

The hand of both papers seem the same to me. They are a little stiff, but thin enough to not make a stink about. One thing I noticed is the shirt needs to be ironed. When it comes out of the wash, the transfer is pretty crinkled and wrinkled. Once ironed (inside out), they looked great. After letting it sit a while, handling it and moving it, the Coastal Opaque seems to have begun to wrinkle just a bit while the 3G Opaque is still smooth and wrinkle free.

Conclusion:
I feel that both of these transfer papers perform pretty well. It would be very hard for me to suggest one over the other. If I absolutely had to, I guess I would go with the 3G Opaque for the very minor advantages above. Another small pro of the 3G is it doesn't stink like the Coastal Opaque. Those of you who have used it probably know what I am talking about.

Either way, I would use both of these transfer papers.
may i know temp/time procedure u used?cause my designs on 3g gets faded on some areas with wrinkles on it,does ironing it will cure the wrinkles..thanks in advance
 
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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

Did you notice a difference in peeling the backing off? One being easier to peal than the other? I can't remember which, but one takes some serious concentration and luck to peel from the backing, while the other one is much less time. This is a huge concern when fulfilling orders onsite.

I'm getting ready to purchase a 100 sheets and also find on Coastal Business, the price is much lower for the 3G.
1.92(Coastal) vs 1.65(3G) per 11x17 sheet (100 pack).

I think I'll go with the 3G.

Did you press those on 100% cotton?
I found 50/50 blend loses the white muting the color.

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Ok But does any of these transfers need to be cut I am looking for a transfer for a injet printer that doese not need to be cut does anyone have any info on serigrafie let me know please.
 
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Ok But does any of these transfers need to be cut I am looking for a transfer for a injet printer that doese not need to be cut does anyone have any info on serigrafie let me know please.
Any single step opaque laser or inkjet has to be cut by hand for non intricate shape or contour cut with vinyl cutter for intricate shape. Right now there is no such beast 2 step self weeding inkjet transfer for dark. There is a product in development but it still requires laser printer, inkjet printer and sublimation toner or ink.

Where are you located? Serigraf is in Ireland.

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Default Re: TEST RESULTS (Dark Shirts): 3G Jet Opaque & Coastal Ink Jet Opaque

I have never tried the coastal brand but with the 3G I always had an issue with washability, after one wash the image would come out looking beat up where the image bent in the wash so I went with the jet opaque which is a heavier paper but better washability.
 






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