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Discuss the different brands and sizes of heat presses available on the market, including Hix, GeoKnight, Hotronix, and other smaller manufacturers. Topics include maintenance, selection, styles and more.



Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

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Old 1 Week Ago Oct 8, 2019 2:11:29 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

Hi all, new guy here. Looking into my first heat press. I was originally looking at the Chinese-made sub-$1,000 units at Heat Press Nation but then decided I'd rather stretch and pay more now for quality equipment than buy something I'll regret.


My requirements are 16x20 clamshell with auto-open. Surprisingly only the Chinese-made units (HPN, etc.) offer 16x20 auto-open units with a drawer. I'd like a drawer but am willing to forego that feature. I'm not sure I need a hover function, but the Geo Knight includes it, so I've chosen the Hotronix model to match.


The comparable Hotronix (Hover) and Geo Knight (DK20A) models, including rolling stands, are about a $425 total difference in price (the Hotronix being more expensive), which to me is not an insignificant amount. Being a noob, I don't know what Hotronix may offer (if anything) to make that extra $425 money well-spent.


I focused on clamshell vs swing-away as I like the auto-open feature so I don't have to sit and stare at the machine to open it timely. I don't believe any of the swing-away models at these price points offer any type of auto-open functionality.


Any advice from the pros out there?

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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

From comparing the two via the websites, I like the wide handle on the Geo Knight. Seems that might help minimize fatigue as you could easily "two-hand it" if you wanted, in a more ergonomic way. Also the Geo Knight offers a twin shuttle accessory. Not cheap at $650, but might be a nice option later if the workload demands it.


I'm sure the Hotronix offers its own advantages over the Geo Knight, but I haven't been able to spot them (yet), other than the height adjustability of the Hotronix stand (which may be important). Although the Hotronix (and accompanying stand) are both better-looking pieces of equipment than the Geo Knight, not that it matters.

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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

You really can't go wrong with either press. All things being equal, I would probably choose the Knight as they are built more tank-like than Stahls.

Also, as was pointed out here in another post, down the road when you need to replace parts the Knight seems to keep parts to obsolete machines longer and their replacement parts in general are cheaper than Stahls.
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

We have had both and I would go with the Hotronix.
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

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We have had both and I would go with the Hotronix.

Specific reasons?
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

What print method are you using? Auto open can cause problems for sublimation. The transfer needs to be removed quickly and smoothly after opening, so you need to be in close attendance to the press. Also most auto open presses open with a jolt which can make the transfer move, cuasing a ghost.
 
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

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Hi all, new guy here. Looking into my first heat press. I was originally looking at the Chinese-made sub-$1,000 units at Heat Press Nation but then decided I'd rather stretch and pay more now for quality equipment than buy something I'll regret.


My requirements are 16x20 clamshell with auto-open. Surprisingly only the Chinese-made units (HPN, etc.) offer 16x20 auto-open units with a drawer. I'd like a drawer but am willing to forego that feature. I'm not sure I need a hover function, but the Geo Knight includes it, so I've chosen the Hotronix model to match.


The comparable Hotronix (Hover) and Geo Knight (DK20A) models, including rolling stands, are about a $425 total difference in price (the Hotronix being more expensive), which to me is not an insignificant amount. Being a noob, I don't know what Hotronix may offer (if anything) to make that extra $425 money well-spent.


I focused on clamshell vs swing-away as I like the auto-open feature so I don't have to sit and stare at the machine to open it timely. I don't believe any of the swing-away models at these price points offer any type of auto-open functionality.


Any advice from the pros out there?
We have a bunch of Geo Knight presses. We have one Stahls (had more in the past). As already said Geo Knights are built like tanks. Support if needed is a little faster with Geo Knight in my experience. Again as said already, parts are cheaper and IMO much less likely to need to be replaced in the first place.

On the DK20A, it is easy to disable the "auto open" to use with dye sub if ghosting is an issue for your product. There is a black metal part that is very easy to remove (takes 10-30 seconds) and now it is manual open.
It sits above the pressure knob when the press is open or on the electromagnet when it is closed.
Just be sure to put it somewhere safe, they run about $35 to replace. (part dkaautohvr i think)

Both are great, but if i was starting my business now and buying just one press i would buy a geo knight. Stahls is even a local company to us, and they have great htv. I am sure whichever way you go you will be fine. Good luck!
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

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What print method are you using?

Not sure yet, but want to be open to all possibilities.


I'm starting to wonder if I should go with a swing-away model instead of a clamshell. I have no plans to print on tiles or thicker items, but swing-away would give me more options and easier placement. I like the idea of auto-open on a clamshell, but I also like the idea of not having to work directly under a hot platen.


One thing's for sure: Geo Knight needs to bring its website out of the 90s.

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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

Is the Air Fusion out of the question? It is a different version of auto-open. Head pulls straight up, swing away and drawer function. But it's expensive.
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

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Is the Air Fusion out of the question? It is a different version of auto-open. Head pulls straight up, swing away and drawer function. But it's expensive.

At this point, probably not within the price range I want to focus on. Maybe someday...
 
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

i prefer swing-aways, if you have the room

i would go with the geo knight, made in the usa (they are the manufacturer)
stahls are sourced from china, which is not a bad thing necessarily (they are not the manufacturer)
but that is why when their manufacturer moves on in production, parts become unattainable

would you rather buy your steak direct from the rancher in montana , or order online from ebay?
 
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would you rather buy your steak direct from the rancher in montana , or order online from ebay?

Well, I kinda assumed, based on pricing, that steaks from both Hotronix or GeoKnight are "direct from the rancher in Montana."
 
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Well, I kinda assumed, based on pricing, that steaks from both Hotronix or GeoKnight are "direct from the rancher in Montana."
nope, as i mentioned hotronix is a re-labeled chinese brand
geo knight is the manufacturer
 
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nope, as i mentioned hotronix is a re-labeled chinese brand

Hmm, right on the Hotronix website it says "Made in USA."
 
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Default Re: Hotronix vs Geo Knight?

hmmmm.......

maybe i was thinking of their maxx presses, i thought for sure i had seen that the hotronix were chinese made

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