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Old April 4th, 2019 Apr 4, 2019 7:45:54 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default 613 Originals on Polyester

So I ordered some transfers from 613 Originals...Which I LOVE...I got the Varsity transfers because I'm applying to 100% polyester, and another set of transfers to cotton and 50/50 cotton poly. The transfers adhered to the cotton shirts beautifully. After doing one black poly shirt, you can clearly see scorch marks. See attached photo. The formula recommends the temp to be at 325 degress, and press for 7 seconds. i did just that. The transfer applied perfectly, minus the scorch marks. Has anyone pressed these on poly at a lower temp? Does it adhere fine and take a washing fine? I have a large order to fill, and don't want to ruin all the shirts. Thanks in advance.
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

It's of course a garment issue and not a transfer issue.


I would reach out to 613 and ask them.



We've also had success using a full size (of the platen) teflon pillow.
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

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It's of course a garment issue and not a transfer issue.


I would reach out to 613 and ask them.



We've also had success using a full size (of the platen) teflon pillow.
Of course...sorry if I posted in the wrong spot. It's a bit overwhelming sometimes. And yes, i was planning to reach out to them tomorrow. I was hoping someone had insight or advice so i could start tonight on these shirts. Thanks again.
 
 
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So I ordered some transfers from 613 Originals...Which I LOVE...I got the Varsity transfers because I'm applying to 100% polyester, and another set of transfers to cotton and 50/50 cotton poly. The transfers adhered to the cotton shirts beautifully. After doing one black poly shirt, you can clearly see scorch marks. See attached photo. The formula recommends the temp to be at 325 degress, and press for 7 seconds. i did just that. The transfer applied perfectly, minus the scorch marks. Has anyone pressed these on poly at a lower temp? Does it adhere fine and take a washing fine? I have a large order to fill, and don't want to ruin all the shirts. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for review, my heart skipped when I saw the title!

Scorching on some products can be an issue, especially those dark colored garments because they run hotter (science stuff).

I would recommend using the Teflon pillows inside the garment as Splathead recommended, that can help alleviate press and paper marks.

Now of course there are tons of variables to consider, but I recommend that one first. Let us know how it goes!
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Of course...sorry if I posted in the wrong spot.

No worries. you posted in the right spot.
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

won't the poly material itself be to blame sometimes?

especially the thinner moisture-wicking ones, due to the weave/tubes in the material collapsing more readily in the heatpress?

you may just have to experiment and test for transfer fastness until you hit the sweet-spot for your particular poly tee
(time/temp/pressure, and at least 12 wash/dry cycles)
 
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

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Thanks for review, my heart skipped when I saw the title!

Scorching on some products can be an issue, especially those dark colored garments because they run hotter (science stuff).

I would recommend using the Teflon pillows inside the garment as Splathead recommended, that can help alleviate press and paper marks.

Now of course there are tons of variables to consider, but I recommend that one first. Let us know how it goes!
The shirt I posted was the result after using a Teflon Pillow. I have the front and the back to do. I kept my press at 325...Any lower and I know the transfer may not stick. I have 100 shirts to do. haha, ugh... I will experiment with some sample shirts...I ordered extra transfers for this exact reason.
 
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

i would take your extra transfers and cut them up into smaller pieces

draw a picture of a tee and then do each piece at different settings,
don't re-hit any of the pieces again with the press

at each sample site draw it onto your original tee drawing and label it with the time/temp/pressure/pillow/etc

then when completed you should have a good idea of what is an abject failure and what shows promise
it is good to have the abject failures to eliminate settings

then do a few wash/dry tests on the sample shirt to test for fastness (since you don't have the time to do many)
once your 100 tees are done and delivered, continue washing/drying your sample shirt
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

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i would take your extra transfers and cut them up into smaller pieces

draw a picture of a tee and then do each piece at different settings,
don't re-hit any of the pieces again with the press

at each sample site draw it onto your original tee drawing and label it with the time/temp/pressure/pillow/etc

then when completed you should have a good idea of what is an abject failure and what shows promise
it is good to have the abject failures to eliminate settings

then do a few wash/dry tests on the sample shirt to test for fastness (since you don't have the time to do many)
once your 100 tees are done and delivered, continue washing/drying your sample shirt
Thank you! This is precisely what I'm doing.
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

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i would take your extra transfers and cut them up into smaller pieces

draw a picture of a tee and then do each piece at different settings,
don't re-hit any of the pieces again with the press

at each sample site draw it onto your original tee drawing and label it with the time/temp/pressure/pillow/etc

then when completed you should have a good idea of what is an abject failure and what shows promise
it is good to have the abject failures to eliminate settings

then do a few wash/dry tests on the sample shirt to test for fastness (since you don't have the time to do many)
once your 100 tees are done and delivered, continue washing/drying your sample shirt
Stealing this approach, thanks for the insight. I would alter temp first before the other variables, 5 degrees at a time.
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

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Originally Posted by 613OriginalsRick
Thanks for review, my heart skipped when I saw the title!

Scorching on some products can be an issue, especially those dark colored garments because they run hotter (science stuff).

I would recommend using the Teflon pillows inside the garment as Splathead recommended, that can help alleviate press and paper marks.

Now of course there are tons of variables to consider, but I recommend that one first. Let us know how it goes!
Ok, so basically...I hope this doesn't come back to bit me in the butt. What I ended up doing, is I lowered the temp on my heat press, and a little less pressure, warmed up the lower platen...to my surprise, it did stick just fine to the material. But if it's too good to be true....
I washed and, against my better judgement, dried it...three times so far...because no one takes the time to hang their clothes anymore, even though I tell them to if they want it to last longer. anyways...so far so good. The transfer is holding up well...the scorch mark is faintly there...but to the normal eye, it's not there. The poly is allowing the transfer at a lower heat. I'm still going to wash it a few more times...just not today.
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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

sounds good so far

if you normally have 'wash cold to warm, not hot', 'dry on cool setting only' or 'hang to dry', 'etc', on your hang tags,
then you are off to the races imo
i've found with my plastisol transfer testing you will know either instantly out of the press,
or within the first 2-3 wash/dry cycles if it worked or not

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Default Re: 613 Originals on Polyester

When I transfer dye-sub on poly I always lower the temp and pressure and increase the dwell time. to solve this issue.
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When I transfer dye-sub on poly I always lower the temp and pressure and increase the dwell time. to solve this issue.

Can you give us settings? Say for your transfers.
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