T-Shirt Forums

T-Shirt Forums (https://www.t-shirtforums.com/)
-   Epson SureColor DTG Printers (https://www.t-shirtforums.com/epson-surecolor-dtg-printers/)
-   -   Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100) (https://www.t-shirtforums.com/epson-surecolor-dtg-printers/t873903.html)

Amelion March 14th, 2019 06:20 AM

Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
Does anyone currently use third party inks on F2000/2100 without issues? I'm particularly interested to Image Armor, dupont and firebird inks (especially the white)
I'm trying dupont inks on a machine out of warranty.
In a few days I'll post my first impressions.

l AliAs l March 14th, 2019 06:39 AM

Looking forward to the response

Amelion March 14th, 2019 01:48 PM

Re: Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
It seems that the F2000 doesn't like so much the white dupont (artistri P5910). The prints are great (at least the white underbase), but every 3-4 shirts the nozzles start to clog (humidity and temp are fine and the damper is new, changed after the new ink charge). I printed only 50-60 black t-shirts today, I'll check in deep in the next days.

The colors on white and light colored shirts are great, much better than the original epson ink, but, on the other hand, on dark garments some colors are less vibrant, especially the bright red.
The grey has a cyan dominant, but this probably could be fixed working with profiles. There are also some other minor changing in colors output, but nothing to worry about.

In any case, if the the printhead decide to work with white, the loss in quality is vastly justified by the greater money saving.
I'm not so optimistic, so, at the end of this test I'll try the Image Armor inks.

l AliAs l March 18th, 2019 02:38 AM

Are these the inks from garment printer ink? I hadn’t found any reviews. Says that you don’t have to flush because they are that close to epsons ink. Not sure if it’s DuPont ink

Amelion March 18th, 2019 04:53 AM

Re: Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by l AliAs l (Post 4423851)
Are these the inks from garment printer ink? I hadn’t found any reviews. Says that you don’t have to flush because they are that close to epsons ink. Not sure if it’s DuPont ink

don't know which kind of inks this site sell, but probably yes. The Artistri 5000+ series is commonly used for the epson heads.

I already discharged the white dupont. Tomorrow I'll try the image armor.
Also the colors gives some nozzles problems to the F2000 head. Probably are not the best choice on a long period, but with a few extra attentions they could be used

In any case, for every change of ink you need to flush tubes. For best practice you should change also the damper kit, but you could avoid this and change it only in case of problems

l AliAs l March 18th, 2019 05:35 PM

seems bust to just stick with Epson ink I guess then?

gatorGRAFIX March 18th, 2019 07:58 PM

Re: Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
Well, it's the only bet that is a sure winner I would say. The rest would be a crap shoot. Depends how frisky you feel I guess (or lucky).

Amelion March 19th, 2019 04:56 AM

Re: Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
From this morning I'm using the image armor for the white and seems to work really well. On a complete different level compared to dupont.
I printed about 40 t-shirts without issues and with a perfect nozzles check at the end. obviously I need to test on a long period how it works, but is a really good start.

I'm also curious to know if there are really so much differences between image armor E-series and F-series.
Soon or later I will try.

Chichi81 March 25th, 2019 11:13 PM

Are there any news with the image armor ink?

Chichi81 March 25th, 2019 11:13 PM

Are there any news with the image armor ink?
Thanks

Chichi81 March 26th, 2019 01:44 AM

Are there any news with the image armor ink?
Thanks

Chichi81 March 26th, 2019 01:44 AM

Are there any news with the image armor ink?
Thanks

Amelion March 26th, 2019 11:25 AM

Re: Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chichi81 (Post 4424745)
Are there any news with the image armor ink?

I'm at the and of a second set of white cartridges and until today all was alright.
Today I printed about 80 black t-shirts with the printer charged with image armor white and the same amount with the other printer charged with original inks.

For the first time in these days I'm having similar trouble of dupont white using image armor. Every few prints many white nozzles need a clean.
This could be related to low humidity of last days (29-30% and sometimes lower. I need to change the humidifier, mine isn't enough).
In any case the original inks works great without any issues.
To be honest I never ever had problems related to humidity with original epson inks, even in the worst scenario (10% of humidity).

So, if the problem is solved with an higher humidity, the image armor inks are definitely much more sensitive to ambient humidity of the original inks.

If these problems persist after an adjustment of the humidity, I'll probably need to investigate more

Chichi81 March 26th, 2019 12:38 PM

Ok thanks! I hope you can solve the problems!

Amelion March 29th, 2019 12:26 PM

Re: Third party inks (Epson F2000/2100)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amelion (Post 4424823)
If these problems persist after an adjustment of the humidity, I'll probably need to investigate more

I solved pointing directly the humidifier on the printer. I already ordered a bigger humidifier to keep ambient humidity above 50%.

Clearly the image armor inks are more sensitive to this aspect respect the Epson.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:39 AM.

vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2014 T-ShirtForums.com. All rights reserved.