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Old December 5th, 2015 Dec 5, 2015 5:44:11 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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You will need more pretreatment on the Gildan 2000 than on a ring spun. I can get good prints on both, but I have switched and my main shirts now are either Anvil 780 or LAT 6901, or any of the ladies cut LAT SHIRTS. Believe you will have a better print with more pretreatment on the Gildan

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Old December 5th, 2015 Dec 5, 2015 6:12:06 PM -   #17 (permalink)
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I'm just freaking out over here.
I understand completely. Been there, done that. Last file emailed as requested (hope I got the email right). Good luck!

Not sure if you have a SpeedTreater from EZ or not but if you do I pretreat my Gildans between 40 and 50 speed.

I hope we all made a difference for you.
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Old December 5th, 2015 Dec 5, 2015 6:18:43 PM -   #18 (permalink)
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I understand completely. Been there, done that. Last file emailed as requested (hope I got the email right). Good luck!

Not sure if you have a SpeedTreater from EZ or not but if you do I pretreat my Gildans between 40 and 50 speed.

I hope we all made a difference for you.
The front was really fuzzy still on the high setting. We pretreat by hand (until the funds become available). Wondering if that is part of the problem now. We were advised at Melco (Where we bought the Epson), that you should roll the pretreatment not spray it (as we were doing).
I'm heat pressing before I print, but a lot of black fibers are still visible as if there isn't enough white going down OR the pretreatment wasn't rolled. Any thoughts?
 
 
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What height setting do you have the platen at? I feed my shirts onto the platen instead of just laying them on top and I print at height setting #1 for the best detail. Too low and you will get fuzzy prints. That print should be crystal clear. I have printed much finer detail smaller on Gildan Ultras that have turned out very crisp and bright.

Not sure about a hand sprayer. I never had one.
 
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It's on 2. 1 kept giving me an error.
 
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It's on 2. 1 kept giving me an error.
Try setting #1. Your shirt must be pressed nice and flat and when you "feed" it onto the platen make sure that the t-shirt is very smooth with no puckers in the material, especially on the edges.

There is a laser beam of light that shoots across the loaded platen and if anything breaks that beam of light you will get an error. This is to keep anything from rubbing the bottom of the print head and damaging it.

I almost ALWAYS feed and print on setting #1.
 
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Try setting #1. Your shirt must be pressed nice and flat and when you "feed" it onto the platen make sure that the t-shirt is very smooth with no puckers in the material, especially on the edges.

There is a laser beam of light that shoots across the loaded platen and if anything breaks that beam of light you will get an error. This is to keep anything from rubbing the bottom of the print head and damaging it.

I almost ALWAYS feed and print on setting #1.
I'm going to trying "rolling" the pretreatment tomorrow. Heat Press completely flat, then printing on 1 tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes. Wish I could get it to print a complete solid arc instead of background like the embroidery. Maybe it would look better. Thanks again.
 
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Wow, the title of this thread is about settings! Garment creator settings. I haven't seen any settings yet...

Dolores, anything you build begins with a great foundation.

The 3 key components to an awesome DTG foundation on a Dark Garment are:

1. Understanding fabric compositions/knits/weight
2. Pretreat
3. Base White coverage

I've banged out a lot cool prints using Garment Creator. What were your settings for this print?
 
Old December 6th, 2015 Dec 6, 2015 4:56:01 AM -   #24 (permalink)
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Wow, the title of this thread is about settings! Garment creator settings. I haven't seen any settings yet...

Dolores, anything you build begins with a great foundation.

The 3 key components to an awesome DTG foundation on a Dark Garment are:

1. Understanding fabric compositions/knits/weight
2. Pretreat
3. Base White coverage

I've banged out a lot cool prints using Garment Creator. What were your settings for this print?
Good Morning,

I'm using the Gildan 2000, which I've used for another print and it worked great. But it wasn't a black t-shirt, it was blue.

I pretreated used a hand sprayer then squeegeeing it down. Later my Melco rep advised I used be using a roller???

I'm thinking it's due to the fact that not enough white is going down before the rest of the logo prints.

Now my settings,

I'm doing Level (3) on Color and White
Printing Bi-Direction
Auto Profile
20 sec pause
Ink Density is at 0
White Management is White(Design) is checked
Reduce White Area is 4
Under White is on
Color Settings everything is 0

My logo is not Popping like it should. Because the lack of a bright white, the color print on top looks lack luster.

I've attached the logo for you to see.
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Old December 6th, 2015 Dec 6, 2015 4:56:31 AM -   #25 (permalink)
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I'm going to trying "rolling" the pretreatment tomorrow. Heat Press completely flat, then printing on 1 tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes. Wish I could get it to print a complete solid arc instead of background like the embroidery. Maybe it would look better. Thanks again.
Dolores, you can try rolling, but believe spaying will do better for you. I am still using a wagner sprayer. Your shirt will look wet when you finish spraying or rolling. I take a wooster brush and brush the pretreatment into the shirt, brushing in only one direction. Then I take a squeegee like you put vinyl on with and run it down the shirt as well. You should not see any fibers sticking up after you brush the pretreatment into the shirt.

As Mark says a good dark shirt print starts with the garment type and then, the pretreatment must be good and solid. Then you must have a good layer of white underbase.

I use a platen height of 2 for all my prints as I do not thread my shirt on. If you thread your shirt onto the platen as Geno does then you may get by with a platen height of 1. But a 2 will still give you an awesome print.

Happy Printing
 
Old December 6th, 2015 Dec 6, 2015 4:35:51 PM -   #26 (permalink)
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I want to thank all of you for your help. I "Killed" a lot of shirts this weekend, but I learned A LOT...Got some decent prints. Sure what to direct my customers to lighter color t-shirts thats for sure. LOL....Again thanks for the tips/tricks/etc. I know I'll be back.
 
Old December 6th, 2015 Dec 6, 2015 6:46:35 PM -   #27 (permalink)
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I pretreated used a hand sprayer then squeegeeing it down. Later my Melco rep advised I used be using a roller???

I'm thinking it's due to the fact that not enough white is going down before the rest of the logo prints.


As mentioned, proper pretreating is very important. The worst way to apply pretreatment is either with a paint roller or with a hand pump spray bottle. If your budget doesn't allow for an automatic pretreater then get and use a hand held power sprayer. The one recommended is the Wagner Control Spray Double Duty. You can pick one up for under $80 at Amazon. It will make a giant difference in how your pretreatment comes out and also save you a lot of money in the amount of pretreatment used compared to the methods you were using.

Here is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Wagner-0518050...+control+spray

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As mentioned, proper pretreating is very important. The worst way to apply pretreatment is either with a paint roller or with a hand pump spray bottle. If your budget doesn't allow for an automatic pretreater then get and use a hand held power sprayer. The one recommended is the Wagner Control Spray Double Duty. You can pick one up for under $80 at Amazon. It will make a giant difference in how your pretreatment comes out and also save you a lot of money in the amount of pretreatment used compared to the methods you were using.

Here is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/Wagner-0518050...+control+spray

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Good Morning,

Yes, I have a Wagner already. I guess I did make it sound like I used pump "bottle". In the future, we will be buying a pretreatment machine as gatorGRAFIX suggested. My husband has already made that point clear...lol.
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Did you get training on the F2000? You should have been shown the correct settings and how to pretreat and print properly.

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Did you get training on the F2000? You should have been shown the correct settings and how to pretreat and print properly.

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Yes I did, but as I am learning on this forum. It depends on the shirt, logo, etc.
 






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