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Old May 29th, 2015 May 29, 2015 6:17:24 AM -   #46 (permalink)
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For some reason I find when I use Gildan I have to go thicker with the pretreat. Someone mentioned that its due to the weave of the cotton. My best luck has been on the Hanes Nano's or the Fruit Of The Loom HD. Has anyone else run into this issue ?
 
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Old May 29th, 2015 May 29, 2015 6:20:59 AM -   #47 (permalink)
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For some reason I find when I use Gildan I have to go thicker with the pretreat. Someone mentioned that its due to the weave of the cotton. My best luck has been on the Hanes Nano's or the Fruit Of The Loom HD. Has anyone else run into this issue ?

Very common issue with the Gildan t-shirts. They are ideal for screen printing but they do have a reputation in the industry for not printing well with direct to garment printing.

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I have excellent results with the Gildan Ultra Cotton 2000's. Especially when using Digital Factory over garment printer.

I am sure that I can get even better results with a tight weave shirt but this is a business and you have to go with the best-est for the most-est value.
 
 
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Please bear with me because I am new to this and I do not want to offend anyone here. I've been reading the forum and have gotten great insight. I am not posting this as a complaint or rant but I am in need of help. I have a family business in Michigan with my brother Vic. We have an f2000 dtg printer a viper 1 pretreat machine and 14 x 16 heat press all bought thru Stahls. The printer prints a quality of a vinyl transfer and its been compared to plastisol. I have been to Stahls Site, You Tube , And Vipers Site. I have talked to Stahls tech support I have talked to Epson Tech support. We are using the Epson pretreat on all our colored shirts. I have been told from Epson that pretreat should be mixed 2 parts water 1 part pretreat. That worked so good it was like running gasoline in a diesel... Sprayed 64 ounces of pretreat all over the office. I tried 50/50 and the pretreat on the shirt feels gummy. I've tried changing saturation, print quality, reducing the white, increasing and decreasing color, all on the garment creator software. Nothing we are doing is giving us the quality that we saw at the trade show before we bought the equipment. I am at my wits end even the sales rep that sold us the equipment has been less than helpful. If anyone can help with this please contact me. I'm at the point of frustration and tired of running around in circles.

If you can't laugh you gotta cry so I finish this posting with a story... An old master mechanic told me something back when I was much younger and worked on cars. We were watching a guy who was just starting out going to the snap on truck. He bought the best and most expensive tools. He didn't know how to use them but he bought the best. The old mechanic laughed as the guy got off the truck and said... "Give a monkey a torque wrench." Right now I'm feeling like the monkey.

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Please bear with me because I am new to this and I do not want to offend anyone here. I've been reading the forum and have gotten great insight. I am not posting this as a complaint or rant but I am in need of help. I have a family business in Michigan with my brother Vic. We have an f2000 dtg printer a viper 1 pretreat machine and 14 x 16 heat press all bought thru Stahls. The printer prints a quality of a vinyl transfer and its been compared to plastisol. I have been to Stahls Site, You Tube , And Vipers Site. I have talked to Stahls tech support I have talked to Epson Tech support. We are using the Epson pretreat on all our colored shirts. I have been told from Epson that pretreat should be mixed 2 parts water 1 part pretreat. That worked so good it was like running gasoline in a diesel... Sprayed 64 ounces of pretreat all over the office. I tried 50/50 and the pretreat on the shirt feels gummy. I've tried changing saturation, print quality, reducing the white, increasing and decreasing color, all on the garment creator software. Nothing we are doing is giving us the quality that we saw at the trade show before we bought the equipment. I am at my wits end even the sales rep that sold us the equipment has been less than helpful. If anyone can help with this please contact me. I'm at the point of frustration and tired of running around in circles.

If you can't laugh you gotta cry so I finish this posting with a story... An old master mechanic told me something back when I was much younger and worked on cars. We were watching a guy who was just starting out going to the snap on truck. He bought the best and most expensive tools. He didn't know how to use them but he bought the best. The old mechanic laughed as the guy got off the truck and said... "Give a monkey a torque wrench." Right now I'm feeling like the monkey.

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Try a different pretreat like Image Armor. I have had great success using the Epson pretreat. It should be mixed 1:1 with distilled water and can only be used on garment that require white ink. If you try to use the Epson pretreat on a white tshirt with CMYK ink only it will not wash correctly. Drop me an email or give me a call and I will be happy to try and resolve your issues.

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Please bear with me because I am new to this and I do not want to offend anyone here. I've been reading the forum and have gotten great insight. I am not posting this as a complaint or rant but I am in need of help. I have a family business in Michigan with my brother Vic. We have an f2000 dtg printer a viper 1 pretreat machine and 14 x 16 heat press all bought thru Stahls. The printer prints a quality of a vinyl transfer and its been compared to plastisol. I have been to Stahls Site, You Tube , And Vipers Site. I have talked to Stahls tech support I have talked to Epson Tech support. We are using the Epson pretreat on all our colored shirts. I have been told from Epson that pretreat should be mixed 2 parts water 1 part pretreat. That worked so good it was like running gasoline in a diesel... Sprayed 64 ounces of pretreat all over the office. I tried 50/50 and the pretreat on the shirt feels gummy. I've tried changing saturation, print quality, reducing the white, increasing and decreasing color, all on the garment creator software. Nothing we are doing is giving us the quality that we saw at the trade show before we bought the equipment. I am at my wits end even the sales rep that sold us the equipment has been less than helpful. If anyone can help with this please contact me. I'm at the point of frustration and tired of running around in circles.

If you can't laugh you gotta cry so I finish this posting with a story... An old master mechanic told me something back when I was much younger and worked on cars. We were watching a guy who was just starting out going to the snap on truck. He bought the best and most expensive tools. He didn't know how to use them but he bought the best. The old mechanic laughed as the guy got off the truck and said... "Give a monkey a torque wrench." Right now I'm feeling like the monkey.

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Just need some guidance and everything will work.

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Old June 29th, 2015 Jun 29, 2015 12:08:01 PM -   #52 (permalink)
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I own a f2000 and i will not use epson's pretreat. I only use Image Armor. I feel that pretreat should just be shaken and used. Not mixed by the buyer. And i never had any problems with Image Armor. I hear alot of people have problems with epson pretreat. Due to alot of readons. But if you have problems with Image Armor then its most likely you sprayed to much or to little. Try out image armor and let me know how that works, use the ultra for darks and light for white shirts. Btw Image Armor is only 50$.
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Old October 16th, 2015 Oct 16, 2015 10:24:15 AM -   #53 (permalink)
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I think my print head is done? It started pooling alot in random parts of the design with the white ink, and its kind of sketchy with the colors. I did alot of the print head cleaning and its got a lil better but the same thing happens. Any1 else have/had this problem?
 
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Contact Epson Support and they should be able to sort it out for you.

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Old November 9th, 2015 Nov 9, 2015 1:11:18 PM -   #55 (permalink)
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these prints look good when printed but do they look worse when heat is applied , also what temp is need to cure these also time needed when pressed , the white ink doesn't last long what do you think
 
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these prints look good when printed but do they look worse when heat is applied , also what temp is need to cure these also time needed when pressed , the white ink doesn't last long what do you think


The shirt pictures that are posted on the forums are usually of prints that have been dried.

For the F2000 inks, Epson recommends 45 seconds at 338 degrees F for CMYK prints. 90 seconds at 338 degrees F for white ink prints. White ink washability and durability should be very good.

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I have posted a bunch of t-shirt shots in here. If you see one with the F2000 hoop on it then the t-shirt has not been cured yet. Anything that isn't still on the pallet in my photos and laying flat has been heated and pressed.

I have another theory why I might be having such good success with Gildan 2000 Ultra Cotton t's. I use a teflon sheet for pressing my shirts after they are pretreated. Easy and saves money. This gets the shirt very flat and the fibers all lay down very nicely.

After I print I use either the teflon coated sheet (which dos leave a small smooth sheen on the t-shirt that disappears after the first washing) or the recommended coated paper.
 
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Properly printed and dried, the shirt prints should look as good just printed or just dried.

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With the Epson F2000 how do you save your artwork? What DPI, pixels, etc to get the best print for black t-shirts?
 
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With the Epson F2000 how do you save your artwork? What DPI, pixels, etc to get the best print for black t-shirts?
I've always heard most recommended if using GC is to save as a png at min of 360 DPI. I've learned that for me that tends to vary according to print size, colors & complexity of image...but that's always my very minimum point.
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