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Is it as good as they claim ?

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Old August 18th, 2014 Aug 18, 2014 7:33:20 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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So all you owners out there who have owned other DTG printers in the past and now own the Epson F2000. What are your thoughts? I own a Anajet and after it breaking twice to the tune of $3000 each time to repair I'm done, it's basically a $15,000 anchor because there's virtually no support. Please LMK the pros and cons u have experienced.


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Default Re: Is it as good as they claim ?

The pros, so far, is that the printer appears to be built better than any third party modified Epson. People are reporting less maintenance and less production time and still getting a perfect nozzle check.

The new wiper belt is superior, it appears, to the wiper blade.

Ink may be a little more expensive, but it's hard to say.

Here's the thing: I've looked over failed DTGs, and 90% of the time, the reason they failed was (1) lack of use, and/or (2) bad maintenance.

If you don't keep a maintenance log, you're going to have problems. If ink doesn't flow, you're going to have problems.

That being said, the Epson F2000 appears to be a winner, especially for shops that don't have very high volume yet.
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Default Re: Is it as good as they claim ?

If I were in the market for a single platen machine with VERY minimal physical maintenance I would look no further than the F2000. It all comes down to what you want out of the printer and your market.

Epson = Ease of use, small foot print, no formal tech training needed - but you pay for this with the cost of ink and the built-in maintenance schedules.

Send me an email with your phone # and I will be happy to call and discuss these things in more detail. Writing a novel here isn't very time efficient lol.

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Except that by writing it here you are sharing with the masses... Enquiring minds want to know...

You opinion is valued, thanks.

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So all you owners out there who have owned other DTG printers in the past and now own the Epson F2000. What are your thoughts? I own a Anajet and after it breaking twice to the tune of $3000 each time to repair I'm done, it's basically a $15,000 anchor because there's virtually no support. Please LMK the pros and cons u have experienced.

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You just have to read the many threads on this Epson sub-forum from owners of the printer and you will note that none of them have had mechanical or clogging issues. Many have let the printer sit for days unused, come back, turned it on, and printed - with no clogging. The Epson warranty included with the printer covers everything including the printhead, and even (if ever needed) an Epson service technician coming to your location within 24 to 48 hours at no charge at all. We've put in many units around the country and simply do not hear back from customers with any issues on the F2000. If you want a printer that you do not have to leave on 24/7 or have to worry about clogging or breakdowns then you should take a look at the F2000.

If you do not get many F2000 users answering you on this thread please contact me and I will be happy to send you some names to call.

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Old August 18th, 2014 Aug 18, 2014 7:48:44 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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So all you owners out there who have owned other DTG printers in the past and now own the Epson F2000. What are your thoughts? I own a Anajet and after it breaking twice to the tune of $3000 each time to repair I'm done, it's basically a $15,000 anchor because there's virtually no support. Please LMK the pros and cons u have experienced.


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Well, long story short, you can get a great deal on the machine this month, so get it now if you're on the fence. In the past I have used a modified Epson DTG and now we use the Epson F2000 now for all our DTG. I am not a super busy DTG shop, so letting the machine sit for up to a week at a time at some points has never given me an issue. I try to circulate the ink at least every couple days however. I have had absolutely no misprints since I have owned the machine and I have printed at least 750-1000 shirts.

Lastly, I am confident that I save more money with the Epson F2000 by not ruining blanks and wasting ink on misprints. It justifies the extra cost of Epson ink for us. I haven't had the opportunity to try any 3rd party RIPs either, but plan to soon.

Bottom line is that it has to be one of the best machines on the market, so if you're in the market for a top tier single platen machine, look no further. The Anajet is wicked expensive and they tried to sell me a used M10 for over 20k. Brother seems to be the only other brand close, but they can't go up to a 16x20 platen.

Oh and I love the sleeve platen. So much easier than screen printing small runs.
 
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I agree with all the above. I have never had a dtg machine before and 3 months almost 8000 prints later this machine has not given me one problem. I was new to dtg and never had any training before this machine. Only thing I had going wad being a graphic designer for years before. The maintenance is so easy and it prints perfect every time. I love the Neo rip and am very happy with my choice. My customers are amazed at the quality and color I can produce I was almost going to buy an anajet but waited.
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Default Re: Is it as good as they claim ?

same here. this was my first DTG machine. Love it. low maintenance. turn it on. circulate ink. light head cleaning. the whole process takes less than 10 minutes, and then you're ready to print.

clean head cap about once a week. flush the white ink once a month.

most of this stuff the LCD will prompt you.

i chose the epson f2000 over the brother because of its ease of use. and low maintenance.
 
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I just did my first head set cleaning! It was the only thing i was afraid i was going to screw up on, but it was SUPER EASY. Nothing about this machine is complicated. l'm not DTG expert, so if i can work this thing, im sure anyone could.
 






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