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Entrustedtees June 24th, 2014 08:01 PM

Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
I need some help. I have had my Epson for over a month and I have used other pretreat and I have not been happy. I do have a pretreat machine. I got a gallon on Image Armor Ultra and I can not find any info or answers to what time temp and pressure. So here is what I use

I have 3 hotronix heat presses. I have the Teflon cover on the top part on the machine and also the bottom. I have silicone paper and craft paper. I'm looking for answers. After spraying the shirt what is the best way to get the fibers down on the shirt. Do I use craft paper? What is the temp. Pressure, and time? With cover on press or not?

Do I use silicone paper? What is the temp. Pressure, and time? With cover on press or not?

So far I have been using the Hanes nano shirt but oter time I have customers wanting to use the Sanmar District 6000.

The out come is not good.

Also on the Garment Creator software what should be the settings for a dark or Black shirt?

I'm just not happy and I can not get any answers from the companies I called that sell Image Armor no one seems to be on the same page or have the answers.

Epson rep came by today because I have called about white problems and before he got there I fixed it. He has no answers or better yet I know more about the machine then he does. the black shirts still look bad.

I sent a Facebook masg to Image Armor and no response.

After 1400 prints and a tube washing 4 600cc white inks and I ink of every color I'm about to blow a gadgets.

I'm asking for HELP!!!!????

allamerican-aeoon June 24th, 2014 08:10 PM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Send me your shirts and image.
I will blow your mind. :):D
Post your un satisfy picture here. Please use photobucket of etc. Not use Tsf attachment option.
I will print and do same. If you want actual shirts I will ship to you after we both post here.
I think it is good deal. I will tell what we did and how.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

Entrustedtees June 24th, 2014 08:16 PM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
I will do it. Thank you

JCS2013 June 24th, 2014 08:26 PM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allamerican (Post 2189890)
Send me your shirts and image.
I will blow your mind. :):D
Post your un satisfy picture here. Please use photobucket of etc. Not use Tsf attachment option.
I will print and do same. If you want actual shirts I will ship to you after we both post here.
I think it is good deal. I will tell what we did and how.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

Peter, I have the new rip I got from All American. I am excited to use this new purchase, but I need to know how to setup my f2000. They guys at the shop said they didn't have time to help me and I needed an appt? Can you help? I am ready to get my mind blown! LOL

EricDeem June 25th, 2014 05:57 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
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1. Spray with pretreatment
2. Brush the fibers down in one direction while the shirt is wet
3. Place onto heat press and cover with silicon or coated craft paper
4. Press at 330f for 30 secs with heavy pressure
5. Verify shirt is 100% dry...if needed press for an additional 10 seconds
6. Print beautiful shirts

spiderx1 June 25th, 2014 06:08 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
You are running your presses to close to min temp for image armour. The temp on your press must maintain a minimum of 325. The press will drop 10 degrees at least on pressing. Also a teflon cover can lower the effective temp by 10 degrees. You must check actual output with a full contact probe.
I run mine at 342, it drpos to 331 during operation. Also consider recovery time between shirts. I sent u a PM

Entrustedtees June 25th, 2014 08:10 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...ps75cd4dc7.jpg
http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...psfc755b3d.jpg

EricDeem June 25th, 2014 08:19 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
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Pic #1 looks like there is either not enough pretreatment or you have several white nozzles not firing. Do a medium clean and try to add more pretreat. You basically can't over pretreat a shirt if using Image Armor or Epson's pretreat. Start with a heavy saturation and then back it off till the print quality suffers.

Entrustedtees June 25th, 2014 08:22 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allamerican (Post 2189890)
Send me your shirts and image.
I will blow your mind. :):D
Post your un satisfy picture here. Please use photobucket of etc. Not use Tsf attachment option.
I will print and do same. If you want actual shirts I will ship to you after we both post here.
I think it is good deal. I will tell what we did and how.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

I posted the images of the shirts printed, I need an email to send the files to.

Entrustedtees June 25th, 2014 08:29 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dekay317 (Post 2190498)
1. Spray with pretreatment
2. Brush the fibers down in one direction while the shirt is wet
3. Place onto heat press and cover with silicon or coated craft paper
4. Press at 330f for 30 secs with heavy pressure
5. Verify shirt is 100% dry...if needed press for an additional 10 seconds
6. Print beautiful shirts

I will try that but do I leave the Teflon cover on the heat press on the top and bottom????

Entrustedtees June 25th, 2014 08:37 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
I have a hotronix hover. I hover first for 70sec at 350 then press for 70 again. If i wipe on the black i get a little die on finger

EricDeem June 25th, 2014 08:49 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
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Teflon on the top is ok but must be wiped after EVERY shirt is pretreated. If it were me I would take the teflon cover off the top and leave the bottom one on. I would also suggest using either the brown craft paper or silicon coated paper.

CURING EPSON INK:
45 Seconds for CMYK ONLY Prints - 350f - Light Pressure
90 Seconds for CMYK+W Printer - 350f - Light Pressure

Where did you get the 70 seconds of hovering and an additional 70 seconds from? Last thing..be sure to verify that your heat press is actually at the temperature indicated.

equipmentzone June 25th, 2014 09:46 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Try using parchment paper for your cover sheet on the pretreat. When you pull the sheet off the pretreat it should just glide off. If you are having to tug on it as you're pulling the sheet off the pretreat it is not dry enough and you are actually pulling pretreat off the shirt.

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spiderx1 June 25th, 2014 09:48 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Appears not enough pretreatment. Should be 23 g.
Image Armour and epson need to reach 325 degrees to activate. Also what Dekay said. Dump the upper cover.

equipmentzone June 25th, 2014 09:50 AM

Re: Using Image Armor Ultra for Epson f2000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Entrustedtees (Post 2191082)
I will try that but do I leave the Teflon cover on the heat press on the top and bottom????


If you are using a cover sheet such as silicone paper you do not need the teflon cover on the heat platen. The bottom cover on the bottom plate should not have an effect either way on or off.
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