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Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 4:17:15 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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Are you using Garment Creator or a 3rd party RIP? In some RIPs such as NeoRip you can select which layer you want to print. i.e. In NeoRip you can rip the file first then right click and a popup will show with the layers you can just uncheck the color. Print the white then when ready unselect the white and just select the color. Red is usually a difficult color and it is common to have some red dye migrate to the white. GCC I am not for sure.
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Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 4:20:05 AM -   #32 (permalink)
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Where can I setting, the printer will be have a little waiting time the white layer between the color layer?
At the moment, the printer does not have this feature. The only way to do it is to send two separate layers.
 
Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 5:07:26 AM -   #33 (permalink)
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Are you using Garment Creator or a 3rd party RIP? In some RIPs such as NeoRip you can select which layer you want to print. i.e. In NeoRip you can rip the file first then right click and a popup will show with the layers you can just uncheck the color. Print the white then when ready unselect the white and just select the color. Red is usually a difficult color and it is common to have some red dye migrate to the white. GCC I am not for sure.
Yes, I'm using the orginal RIp software of the Priter, the Garment Creator.
Shold I use other RIP software or not?
Previously I used AnaJet Sprint and mP5 and that's RIPs. They have some usable function than the Garment Creator, I miss that

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At the moment, the printer does not have this feature. The only way to do it is to send two separate layers.
Incredible... This is a very-very basic feature in this job...
 
 
Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 5:19:27 AM -   #34 (permalink)
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U will find that a 3rd party rip will give u more reatures, better control, and most likely a significant ink savings in the white ink area. GCC will continue to evolve and get better, but....
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Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 5:21:42 AM -   #35 (permalink)
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Incredible... This is a very-very basic feature in this job...
I don't know if this could be done on the software side, firmware side or would have to be both. Either way, I do see a benefit to this and if the need was there by enough people, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to be added to the system.
 
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Thanks for all the tips they have helped me so much today thought id share a great print i did for myself . came out amazing, i cannot believe how clear and crisp this machine prints! dialed in and printing really well with great wash tests! again thanks everyone.
That's a GREAT looking print!!!!! Randy (Spiderx1) gave you some great tips also. The learning curve is pretty quick with the Epson and the new pretreatment options.
 
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Hello,

I have some question, because I'm a beginer with the epson f2000.
Generaly the prints are perfect, but somethimes we have some mistake.
If I would like print a hole white text or graphics, for example on red t-shirt, then under the print will be visible a little the color of fabric.
I made same pretatment method, then the black shirts, same ink setting. What does may the problem?

Where can I setting, the printer will be have a little waiting time the white layer between the color layer?
I read the user manual of the printer and i didn't find this feature.

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Color / dye migration especially on red shirts is a difficult thing to overcome. If you are using Garment Creator, you might be able to resolve your issue by simply printing the white layer only using the "Dark Color T-Shirt (White)" setting. Once it completes that then reprint the image using the "Light Color T-Shirt" setting. You MUST have your transparency already setup correctly prior to bringing it into GC.
 
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Time between layers somtimes a rip option. Or sometimes implemented as a time from start to print cmyk. In that case you need to have a clue on how long to print white.
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Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 6:41:03 AM -   #39 (permalink)
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great tips wow! i am actually having some issues printing on white shirts. the color comes out amazing after printed but when cured they fade away to a washed out look? will a different pretreat work such as image armour light???? not sure what else i can do for the white shirts???
 
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great tips wow! i am actually having some issues printing on white shirts. the color comes out amazing after printed but when cured they fade away to a washed out look? will a different pretreat work such as image armour light???? not sure what else i can do for the white shirts???

You do not have to pretreat a white shirt but, in general, you would get a brighter print if you do. In simplest terms think of painting a wall in a room. You do not have to prime the wall before painting but if you do the paint will be easier to apply an look better. Think of the pretreat as a primer for your ink on the white shirt.

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great tips wow! i am actually having some issues printing on white shirts. the color comes out amazing after printed but when cured they fade away to a washed out look? will a different pretreat work such as image armour light???? not sure what else i can do for the white shirts???
Couple things you could try.

1. Cut some of the Epson Pretreatment in half again with distilled water and put a very light coating. Maybe 7 turns on the ViperOne.

2. Buy the Image Armor Light Pretreat

3. Don't use pretreat..the results will not be a sharp and defined as with pretreat but it will still look pretty good.
 
Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 7:33:54 PM -   #43 (permalink)
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great tips wow! i am actually having some issues printing on white shirts. the color comes out amazing after printed but when cured they fade away to a washed out look? will a different pretreat work such as image armour light???? not sure what else i can do for the white shirts???

What temperature and for how long are you heat pressing your white shirt prints?
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Old May 23rd, 2014 May 23, 2014 7:45:12 PM -   #44 (permalink)
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338 for 90 seconds
 
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338 for 90 seconds

Try heat pressing your white shirts for 45 seconds instead when printing with Epson CMYK inks. This is the Epson recommended time.

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