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Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 2:36:22 AM -   #46 (permalink)
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Look same but function are so much different. 4900 has many drop size while F2000 does not to achieve lots of ink deposit. 4900 uses 10 channels F2000 uses 8 channels.
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I would have to agree with Peter not because he is NeoFather and my friend lol but because of my wide format background. The viscosity in paper and textile are different and would not be able to function well in a traditional 4900 print head. If it were the same I don't think Epson would tell anyone and if it were then they would have to modify like they did with the dx5 heads to push textile ink through. Like Smalzstein said could be a manifold change also
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Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 6:42:34 AM -   #47 (permalink)
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What were you displaying at the show?
i was helping the guys in the All American booth, and was primarily working with the NeoFlex.
 
Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 6:55:22 AM -   #48 (permalink)
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And again I would agree with David. Drop size controll like R1900 vs 4880 c'mon gyus this is common knowlege.

I maybe wrong on this but if I would have to place the bet I would say that they are virtualy the same in the actual printhead area.

Or dx5 vs dx7 different electronic layout on the PCB, different manifold but heads virtually the same.
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Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 7:31:20 AM -   #49 (permalink)
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I think it is kinda splitting hairs. Hard to say that the print head was specifically built for this printer because why would Epson spend the extra money for 2 extra channels in the middle of the head that are not being used at all. It is also hard to say that nothing in the inside of the head has not been altered to make the flow of the dtg ink better than their standard print heads used in the modified printers. At the end of the day, the real test will come down to whether it works or not in the hands of actual users.

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Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 8:01:09 AM -   #50 (permalink)
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I would probably have to agree with that one. Millions of dollars it would take to develop one for DTG and it's a test printer right now, meaning if it doesn't get good feedback well no machines will be sold. I'm curious to see how it does in production. Prints look great
 
Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 2:22:16 PM -   #51 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, the real test will come down to whether it works or not in the hands of actual users.
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That really is what it is all about, in the end. Whatever original or modified head design is involved, it does seem to work. There are beta F2000 units out there at large print operations that have been running for months without any problems. Various users, including dealers, that have left units sit for almost 2 weeks unused have them starting up again with no clogging issues at all. The warranty included covers the printhead. I agree, it is always interesting to discuss the intricate details behind the design and origins of the printer components. But I think what the majority of people looking to possibly buy the F2000 are most interested in is does the F2000 work and work well. By all indications - it does.

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This thread started with "how easy set up would be" "not necessary on professional person to Epson set up" and going different direction. Beauty of open forum.
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Old January 27th, 2014 Jan 27, 2014 3:12:32 PM -   #53 (permalink)
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True, did go in a different direction. Not like that hasn't happened on the forums before though
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Old January 28th, 2014 Jan 28, 2014 7:33:56 AM -   #54 (permalink)
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Getting training on operating any direct to garment printer is always a good idea.

Especially for those who have never printed before, it helps getting started so much easier and more trouble free, plus shows many procedures that new users would not have been aware of.

There are many posts here on the Forums with this message - "Proper training is a must".

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Old January 28th, 2014 Jan 28, 2014 1:51:15 PM -   #55 (permalink)
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Training is essential to getting the most out your equipment in the shortest time. The learning curve can be quite daunting in DTG printing...any advantage one can take is a wise decision.
 






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