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Old January 3rd, 2014 Jan 3, 2014 8:30:38 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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This topic was about the Epson software and it's capabilities.
That's it.
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Peter you are removing the background (black) using the Garment Creator software and that is why you get a hard edge (either on or off).

If you remove the black from the image in Photoshop or a similar application using color selection or magic wand and save as a TIF (single layer with transparency) and import this and print you will get similar results to the 3rd party RIP output.

Obviously its much better when the RIP software can do this automatically, but I do think putting up these images is a bit miss leading as it doesn't show how Garment Creator should be used for images like this and it can create acceptable results.
You just have to understand the work flow required.


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Old January 4th, 2014 Jan 4, 2014 2:40:14 AM -   #18 (permalink)
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This topic was about the Epson software and it's capabilities.
That's it.
LOL, Good morning Mark. This is exactly explain about capability of GC.
Epson delivered great PrintOut than most out there.
Our job is bring it to the Maximum with easiest and fastest way. Don't you agree?
But I do understand why you had to saying as above.
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Old January 4th, 2014 Jan 4, 2014 3:02:28 AM -   #19 (permalink)
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Peter you are removing the background (black) using the Garment Creator software and that is why you get a hard edge (either on or off).

If you remove the black from the image in Photoshop or a similar application using color selection or magic wand and save as a TIF (single layer with transparency) and import this and print you will get similar results to the 3rd party RIP output.

Obviously its much better when the RIP software can do this automatically, but I do think putting up these images is a bit miss leading as it doesn't show how Garment Creator should be used for images like this and it can create acceptable results.
You just have to understand the work flow required.


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This is just was I was talking about earlier.
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Peter, I'm not sure my wife will be happy you posted pictures of her here

The RIP makes a big difference in output for sure, I imagine the difference is much more significant in person. Looking forward to all the comparison pics after the ISS show once all the dealers show what they got.
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Old January 4th, 2014 Jan 4, 2014 5:09:01 AM -   #21 (permalink)
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\This is exactly explain about capability of GC.
Actually this isn't explaining the capabilities of Garment Creator, it's pointing out the limitations. It's already been stated the type of files Garment Creator can't handle effectively but as David already pointed out, you can do this in a program like Photoshop by removing the black ink. Your final print would look more like what you are getting here. This information is coming from another provider of RIP and yet he chose to give out valuable information on how to use Garment Creator more effectively.

Yes, the idea is to allow the end user as little effort as possible, but again, this thread isn't about third party RIP's, it's about what Garment Creator can do out of the box. When the information is provided as to what Garment Creator can and can not do, the end user can decide whether they want to use a RIP or not. Comparing what a RIP can do in this thread deters from the original intention. If I wanted to compare Garment Creator to RIP, I would have done so, but again, I did not want to take away from what EPSON was able to accomplish with Garment Creator simply to sell other offerings.
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We all start cooking with same beef. Some one will make hamburger, stew, steak, or 5* Restraunt dish. Which Beef dish are you prefer to get served at same price tag?
Epson Provide us FDA certified Prime Beef. Now it's Chef's choice what to cook for party.
I will follow Dave's advice of work flow. Maybe TIGERS already did it(?). Touch up with PhotoShop. Save as TIF, Use Magic Wand etc. I will come back here again with this results. If I wear your shoes I will say same thing.
Maximize EPSON's capability not only GC software. It is no doubt on when Epson output become "The Best" Epson will be happy and we all do too. Objection? As I said before, I will share with anyone. Bird told me she was knocked by BQ(?) others(?).
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Old January 4th, 2014 Jan 4, 2014 8:51:54 AM -   #23 (permalink)
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Peter use color range selection tool on the RGB 0,0,0 pixel with fuzzinest 65 - 120 % and then deleted the selection leawing transparency.

Then you will need to setup grandient underbase in Garment Creator (not sure in it's capabilities in this matter).

The output should be similar if not better than kothari.
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Peter use color range selection tool on the RGB 0,0,0 pixel with fuzzinest 65 - 120 % and then deleted the selection leawing transparency.

Then you will need to setup grandient underbase in Garment Creator (not sure in it's capabilities in this matter).

The output should be similar if not better than kothari.

You can't actually be serious?!? From my experience DTG owners and their customers need a much more efficient way to print. Bringing every single image into PS to modify it is unacceptable. I like having a RIP that simplifies the process and creates the desired results without any modifications. Every software/hardware ever created has limitations and while GC is decent out of the box it doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. My TV at home display's the football games just fine but if I want to pay my cable company for a high quality HD package then the football game will be even better and utilize the full capabilities of my TV. Same thing with GC vs RIP.

Does GC work out of the box? Yes.
Will using a profiled RIP make it better? Yes.
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Default Re: Garment Creator Capabilities

Once again, the intent of the thread is getting lost. It is about Garment Creator's capabilities. Where it lacks, we are giving feedback on how to utilize it effectively. If that means using Photoshop, sobeit. Everyone knows RIP will simplify the process, there's no need to continuously go on about it. If the thread was titled Garment Creator vs RIP, then by all means have at it. As the thread starter, I'm not trying to be repetitious or nitpicky, it's just not what point I wanted to get across.
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Jerid...until more units are in the market and people are finding the limitations with GC it will ALWAYS be a comparative thread. What did you expect to happen? There is simply not enough data available for GC yet.
 
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There is simply not enough data available for GC yet.
And once again the point of this thread....
 
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And once again the point of this thread....
Why did you start the thread if you knew nobody had access to GC yet? Again, what did you really expect to happen?
 
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I was giving information that not many people would have. Look at the title of the thread. Why dig into more than what I'm stating as my intention? When the RIPs become available, I'm sure there will be many posts about their results and capabilities.
 
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Default Re: Garment Creator Capabilities

Let's keep this thread about the Epson Garment Creator software.

Other threads can be started to discuss other rips that may become available.
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