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Old May 8th, 2014 May 8, 2014 3:05:17 AM -   #46 (permalink)
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Eric, even though this is an update to the software, it's still not the update I've been talking about. It's slated to be released by the end of May (assuming all goes well). There are ways to use the same version of GC you have to print it much like the other, with the fade etc, it's just not automatic. And yes, I know the RIP can do it automatically, etc etc., so will the newest version of GC when it's released. (A little preemptive commenting in a friendly kind of way).
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Old May 8th, 2014 May 8, 2014 3:30:07 AM -   #47 (permalink)
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$5.42 inks plus Pretreat cost are real ouch! Whew~ Sweating~ How about you guys?
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Old May 8th, 2014 May 8, 2014 4:59:40 AM -   #48 (permalink)
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Eric, the price is high on Garment Creator. There are multiple selections of how to print and with that kind of difference in price, you would be printing more ink than necessary. What levels of white and color and at what ink densities did you print the design? Also what is the overall size?
 
 
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I used the default settings in Garment Creator. The only adjustment I made was selecting the black color as the transparency. I tried to be as objective as possible so I used the default settings in NeoRIP also. Nothing more was done.

The image size was 15.5 x 11.55.
 
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What levels were used? The RIP would be tweaked, GC would not. We can give pointers to the end user to build quick presets which takes a few seconds to set up.
 
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The point of this is to compare a click to click - default to default between the two software. I didn't adjust any setting within either software application. Technically I could put the image in photoshop and spend many hours tweaking this and tweaking that...but time is money. It is not logical nor profitable to adjust every image for every shirt for every customer. This is where the manufacturers and dealers don't understand fully what it's like in a retail environment using a DTG printer with the general public and not a "clinical lab" scenario. Very few dealers and/or sales reps in this industry have ever actually used the equipment in a retail or production scenario day in and day out so they don't have the same frame of reference of users like myself. Sorry for going a lil off topic.
 
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I understand, but a few tweaks to GC vs $1,500 for a RIP, I think you save a lot more in time than you realize by setting up GC. It's also a preset, so you change it one time and that's it, essentially what a RIP does out of the box. Again, I understand there are benefits to a RIP and how a RIP can handle files differently, this is why we will give a 30 day trial to a RIP as well. The customer can choose between the two, but most customers won't need to feel they have to buy a RIP and some will.
 
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I'd also like to point out that in other posts with a different printer that is much slower, you do not advocate "time is money", but you put quality over anything else. This thread is designated to learning about GC, not versus a RIP. If you would have come in and stated this print was $5.42, are there any tips on how to reduce this cost, it would have been much more productive. But to come out swinging comparing it to a tweaked RIP only shows one side of the coin, a side in which you are obviously very much in favor of.

This thread is to help those who may not have an extra $1,500 out of the gate for a RIP, or for those that don't believe they need a RIP. Once again, I'd like to help keep this thread on topic.
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I could afford the RIP due to the ink cost savings within a month if I printed 12 shirts a day!
 
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I could afford the RIP due to the ink cost savings within a month if I printed 12 shirts a day!
Using the same version of GC that you are, I just got the price down to $2.96 and with more tweaks I can get it down further. Can't play any more, I have a trade show starting....
 
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This thread is to help those who may not have an extra $1,500 out of the gate for a RIP, or for those that don't believe they need a RIP. Once again, I'd like to help keep this thread on topic.
First of all RIP is not $1500. way lower.
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Hey Jerid,

I would like to learn more on what presets/tweaks you are using for GC. I will contact you via eMail.
 
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I received my F2000 two weeks ago, started GC and realized after about 5 minutes its not gonna work.

For me using GC is like buying a 200.000$ musicstudio and then operate it with Garageband, or buying a Ferrari but only driving it with spare tires.

Anybody serious with their business will of course use a RIP, better quality and saves ink. Why spend time tweaking this and that, for what?

And after spending 20.000 on a printer and x amount of 1000´s on pretreatment equipment, you might as well just spend the extra 1000$ aswell because its worth it for sure.


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I received my F2000 two weeks ago, started GC and realized after about 5 minutes its not gonna work.

For me using GC is like buying a 200.000$ musicstudio and then operate it with Garageband, or buying a Ferrari but only driving it with spare tires.

Anybody serious with their business will of course use a RIP, better quality and saves ink. Why spend time tweaking this and that, for what?

And after spending 20.000 on a printer and x amount of 1000´s on pretreatment equipment, you might as well just spend the extra 1000$ aswell because its worth it for sure.


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Cannot find better description than this. Why not using RIPs?
While all are free to test?
Keep puring water into holed bucket?
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Just curious. Does the ink usage volume on the Garment Creator match the ink usage amount printed on the printer log? Has anyone weighed the cartridges before and after and compared that to the ink usage estimates? And does a cc of ink weigh a gram?

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