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Setting Up the Epson SureColor F2000

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Old November 1st, 2013 Nov 1, 2013 9:13:27 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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Yeah I don't underestimate that, the company is worth Billions
 
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They are new to this market but have the capital to do a good job. They will need some really skilled techs to start

The warranty is a very strong one. One year included and you can purchase an extended warranty for up to a 5 year total.
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Going to kick my feet up on my desk and see how this all works out before I drop my jaw on the machine. Looks good so far
 
 
Old November 1st, 2013 Nov 1, 2013 11:11:44 AM -   #34 (permalink)
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Going to kick my feet up on my desk and see how this all works out before I drop my jaw on the machine. Looks good so far

The maintenance procedures are very easy and impressive.
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The maintenance procedures are very easy and impressive.
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Yeah I know. I've read all about it. Will be in Long Beach this year. I want to see it up close
 
Old November 2nd, 2013 Nov 2, 2013 2:55:04 PM -   #36 (permalink)
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Lol I know it's odd, it's like selling two cars one with a/c and one without but at the same price hehe
Except the car without A/C can go twice as fast... if you're going to be driving the car up north, why get the AC?

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Actually, all the parts are identical, it's just the way you set it up. So it's not hard to understand why there isn't a price difference. If you don't need white ink, you can get double the production, so it's overall a good deal if you don't need white. Why you can't switch afterwards, I'm not fully understanding of it, but I've never asked Epson this, but plan to. I'm sure there is some reasoning.
 
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Actually, all the parts are identical, it's just the way you set it up. So it's not hard to understand why there isn't a price difference. If you don't need white ink, you can get double the production, so it's overall a good deal if you don't need white. Why you can't switch afterwards, I'm not fully understanding of it, but I've never asked Epson this, but plan to. I'm sure there is some reasoning.
Aside from trying to get you to buy both, they probably didn't want the support hassle of having to explain how to flush the lines nor want their customers swapping out firmware. But, given how expensive the unit is, some people are naturally going to question why we can't switch them. If they are the same, then that should be an option, even if it is is a little bit of effort. For that matter, they themselves should provide that option for a fee.

That said, maybe they feel there will be little demand for it, except from people who bought the "Standard" unit. IMHO, the Standard unit should have been the White Edition.

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The versacam with white cannot be swapped over. The difference is, ecosolvent ink is terrible and can take months to flush out and not contaminate the ink. This ink doesn't do that, so as you suspect, I'd be inclined to believe it's a tech support issue. It is a question I'll address.
 
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would the warranty void if you remove and waterall the printhead ?
 
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Yes it would. The point is, there should be absolutely no reason to waterfall your print head. Plus Epson would be there the next business day if needed, including replacing the head if required.
 
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Yeah why would you even touch it with the warranty and service plan they offer? It breaks..call a tech on site.

I wonder if Epson will offer a conversion kit in the future to those customers who bought a cmyk only machine. With enough demand I bet it would be taken into consideration but I'm sure it will be years from now before anything would happen.
 
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Yeah why would you even touch it with the warranty and service plan they offer? It breaks..call a tech on site.

I wonder if Epson will offer a conversion kit in the future to those customers who bought a cmyk only machine. With enough demand I bet it would be taken into consideration but I'm sure it will be years from now before anything would happen.

Epson sees a market for both models - CMYK only and the CMYK+W. We have been told by Epson that you cannot and will not be able to change one model to the other. What might be in the future is a guess at best. So if you are buying an Epson F2000 you should buy it with the expectation that the model you buy is the way it will always stay and just choose accordingly.
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Agreed. Its a big expense and making sure you plan for the future is essential when picking the right printer.
 
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Epson sees a market for both models - CMYK only and the CMYK+W. We have been told by Epson that you cannot and will not be able to change one model to the other. What might be in the future is a guess at best. So if you are buying an Epson F2000 you should buy it with the expectation that the model you buy is the way it will always stay and just choose accordingly.
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The benefit of the CMYK model is that it is fast. This alone will make it desirable to Screen printers and companies that already have a printer for W.
 






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