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Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

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Old October 31st, 2013 Oct 31, 2013 4:02:29 AM -   #46 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

My understanding from the chief epson rep at SGIA is that the printer comes with a driver /program that is capable of the basic RIP functions, white underbase etc. That there will be several 3rd party full featured rips eventually available for it but these are separated from Epson. Printer comes with what you need out of the box. You want fancy bells and whistles, you are free to buy other compatible rip software.
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Default Re: Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

This is all pretty standard stuff in the commercial inkjet world outside of our industry.
 
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Old October 31st, 2013 Oct 31, 2013 5:09:44 AM -   #48 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

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My understanding from the chief epson rep at SGIA is that the printer comes with a driver /program that is capable of the basic RIP functions, white underbase etc. That there will be several 3rd party full featured rips eventually available for it but these are separated from Epson. Printer comes with what you need out of the box. You want fancy bells and whistles, you are free to buy other compatible rip software.
uh another 2k for RIP

oh well
 
 
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uh another 2k for RIP

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It sounds like you don't *have* to spend more money on a RIP if you don't want to. The Epson DTG will come with everything you need to print.

But the option is there if you would like it.

Kind of like if you buy a computer, you don't *have* to spend $500 to upgrade the hard drive to 1 terabyte of flash storage. Not everyone needs that. But for those that do, more options are available.

Or maybe a car buying example is better? All cars come with the appropriate tires to get you down the road, but some people choose to spend $2000+ on fancier tires that enhance the cars performance. Stock is just fine for many though
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Old October 31st, 2013 Oct 31, 2013 9:24:53 AM -   #50 (permalink)
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It sounds like you don't *have* to spend more money on a RIP if you don't want to. The Epson DTG will come with everything you need to print.

But the option is there if you would like it.

Kind of like if you buy a computer, you don't *have* to spend $500 to upgrade the hard drive to 1 terabyte of flash storage. Not everyone needs that. But for those that do, more options are available.

Or maybe a car buying example is better? All cars come with the appropriate tires to get you down the road, but some people choose to spend $2000+ on fancier tires that enhance the cars performance. Stock is just fine for many though


You are correct. Everything is included with Epson F2000 Printer to start printing, including Epson's RIP for garment printing.

Very good analogies also.
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Default Re: Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

A RIP does tend to help in some difficult types of prints, but I do know Epson is working on some of the more difficult designs using their Garment Printer Software (as Rodney mentioned, it comes with the purchase of the printer).
 
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A RIP does tend to help in some difficult types of prints, but I do know Epson is working on some of the more difficult designs using their Garment Printer Software (as Rodney mentioned, it comes with the purchase of the printer).


All the designs printed in the Epson F2000 videos and at the SGIA show, including producing the white under bases, were printed using the Epson garment RIP that will be included with the printer.
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Even though they were printing with the Garment Printer software, talking with Epson in their booth, fades into black can't be accomplished yet, but they are aggressively working on it. This is one of the few things they are trying to accomplish with the included package. No RIP will be included since their software is very simple to use and can print shirts! A RIP will add cost, but again, may end up being completely unnecessary.
 
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Even though they were printing with the Garment Printer software, talking with Epson in their booth, fades into black can't be accomplished yet, but they are aggressively working on it. This is one of the few things they are trying to accomplish with the included package. No RIP will be included since their software is very simple to use and can print shirts! A RIP will add cost, but again, may end up being completely unnecessary.
the fade to black RIP is a must to me....

i own a freejet dtg with khotari rip, which are nearly same rip as neoflex

i will only interested buying epson surecolor if the image quality is the same level of my RIP or atleast near in quality

i have been browsing arround and see that surecolor print quality is still lack compared my print:



i hope they keep upgrading their software
 
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I definitely understand. If they cannot accomplish it with their software, then you would be a candidate for a RIP. When the time comes, I'm sure there will be wheeling and dealing going on with software.
 
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Default Re: Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

Is this machine's print head the same as the 4900? If it is it's a disaster.
 
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the fade to black RIP is a must to me....

i own a freejet dtg with khotari rip, which are nearly same rip as neoflex

i will only interested buying epson surecolor if the image quality is the same level of my RIP or atleast near in quality

i have been browsing arround and see that surecolor print quality is still lack compared my print:



i hope they keep upgrading their software
Since All American (NeoFlex) is a dealer I am sure they will be utilizing their RIP to enhance the Epson even more.
 
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Is this machine's print head the same as the 4900? If it is it's a disaster.
In all honesty, I wouldn't worry about the head. I know it is purpose-built, but besides that, this system has been in beta for quite some time. In addition, the print head has a full 1 year warranty. If anything goes wrong, a certified Epson tech will come to your location and replace it the next business day. Not much of a disaster there.
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Default Re: Is the Epson SureColor DTG printing at SGIA? Any photos/videos?

Epson has pointed out that the F2000 printhead was specifically configured by them for garment printing.
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If you look, there would be 10 channels, much like a 4900 head, but only 8 are firing. If, in fact, it is a 4900 head, they would have modified it to accept garment ink. Of course, Epson is so confident in this head, they warrant it for the full year, as well as up to 3 years for the extended warranty (I don't have a price on this yet).
 
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