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Old September 28th, 2013 Sep 28, 2013 10:37:15 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default EPSON SC F2000 ink price

i found epson dtg's cartridge price.
250ml cmyk is 11800 japanese yen.600ml white is 23400 yen.ink starter package cost is 70800 yen.ink not include new machine.
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Old September 28th, 2013 Sep 28, 2013 11:12:21 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

500usd per litre. Why did Epson eve bother?
 
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Old September 29th, 2013 Sep 29, 2013 9:18:17 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

Think u r stuck with their ink due to printhead. The just lost 65% of their sales in US. Be just like a Brother now, can't afford to run. Bunch of companies just took a deep breath and a sigh of relief. If that price holds for US market.
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Old September 29th, 2013 Sep 29, 2013 11:40:06 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Interesting to find out if coverage is better per ml tho.

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Old September 29th, 2013 Sep 29, 2013 12:01:31 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

The thread starter should post the source of the information, for now it's not credible.
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Old September 29th, 2013 Sep 29, 2013 5:02:36 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

i found it from Epson Japan and google translate it.there was many interesting information about epsons new dtg.if intereting try it.i belive that new dtg is not game changer.only will be BROTHER like brand.but they maybe planned "to take" all epsons printhead based market...lol...dont wait more....maybe printhead lifespan will be little longor than others.....but...

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Old September 29th, 2013 Sep 29, 2013 5:04:51 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

sorry .i found it from epson's japanese site.
 
Old October 3rd, 2013 Oct 3, 2013 7:22:35 AM -   #9 (permalink)
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500 per liter? DAMN that is a little more than double what I pay for dupont through AA.
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

Lets wait a let it play out. Everything is expensive in Japan! Very expensive.
As it stands, advertised life of printhead is life of printer, ink coverage per ml as it is now, is estimated at 60 percent of dupont. Very thin. I expect to see this change in the near future. Currently epson test prints are made with 2 passes of white, 1 cmyk. SGIA may reveal some significant improvement.
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

Price in Euro

90,- EUR +MwSt. 200ml Cartrige
alternativ
170,-EUR +MwSt. 600ml Cartrige

white and cmyk cost the same.
But it has only 2 White Channels and cmyk.
 
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So 231$usd for 600 ml. Are those the official EU released numbers.
So about same in yen it was 240$. No if they get that cost in half they could rule the world. Well at least do very well.
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

Reality is that worrying about ink costs at this point in the game is a mute point. Chemistry changes in ink generally take 3-6 months to commercialize once the ink is beta tested (which is normally another 3-6 months). If the ink is not "dense" enough as Randy indicated (and was confirmed by my "feet on the ground" observer in Chicago) it may be a year before that issue is addressed.

As with any other new machine being introduced into the direct to garment market - I would suggest that we are at least 9 months or more out before machines are ready for prime time. The RIP manufacturers I have interfaced with who are considering developing for these units only received test machines in the past month or so.
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Default Re: EPSON SC F2000 ink price

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Reality is that worrying about ink costs at this point in the game is a mute point. Chemistry changes in ink generally take 3-6 months to commercialize once the ink is beta tested (which is normally another 3-6 months). If the ink is not "dense" enough as Randy indicated (and was confirmed by my "feet on the ground" observer in Chicago) it may be a year before that issue is addressed.

As with any other new machine being introduced into the direct to garment market - I would suggest that we are at least 9 months or more out before machines are ready for prime time. The RIP manufacturers I have interfaced with who are considering developing for these units only received test machines in the past month or so.
Egg first Chicken first?
Humm~
Tuff call.
If EPSON is developing RIP now as Don addressed. I will be so shocked because it does not sound like look like Giant's behavior at all. Even respectable Modifiers will never do that.
Did Don saying Epson send out F2000 printerS to RIP writerS to developing RIPs?
They have default driver like Brother. Does Brother developing RIP? I don't think so but ~.
Ink: Opacity was there but pretreat was maybe not. Bird told me.
35 cents per mili liter is between Brother and DuPont price tag.
Since there will be many EPSON dealers as same as DuPont's. Price can be lower than that is so easy to predict. But Hey~ who know what.
We will have all answers in 19 days at SGIA.
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I'm not sure we will have ALL of the answers Peter! Look forward to seeing you in Orlando!

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