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Best Embroidery Machine to Start With For Hats? (3D Puff) is?

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I'm looking to get into embroidery. For now my main focus would be embroidering hats with a main focus on 3D Puff. Any recommendations for a good starter machine preferably 1 head 15+ needles. I see Melco's Bravo has some interesting additions like Fast Clamp Pro, the hoop for embroidering the back of hats but Melco doesn't make the list of any Top Commercial Embroidery Machines. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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I'm looking to get into embroidery. For now my main focus would be embroidering hats with a main focus on 3D Puff. Any recommendations for a good starter machine preferably 1 head 15+ needles. I see Melco's Bravo has some interesting additions like Fast Clamp Pro, the hoop for embroidering the back of hats but Melco doesn't make the list of any Top Commercial Embroidery Machines. Any help would be appreciated.
Barudan are beast with hats once you get pass the learning curve.
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I am looking to get into brain surgery. Can anyone give me info on what are the best scalpels to buy. Your determination is commendable. The technical ability to produce retail level puf embroidery eludes almost all daily small embroidery shops. I am not sure about Barudan machines. I can say that for puf, Our Tajima that has adjustable off contact is what we use as it can be dialed in for the best results. I understand that the new cap holder design(not on our TMAR-K) is more rigid and the friction of sewing foam does create a lot of vertical movement. I don't know if the holding mechanism has been made any thinner but that would be an improvement for sewing visors. That is still a problem.
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I think you are insane. You are picking the hardest thing to do with an embroidery machine.

First off, a single head gets you into the game but the first order for 500 hats with 2 locations and you will hate yourself. You need at least a 4 head to make any money and even then it is not a cake walk.

There are 3 aspects to embroidery.

1) The machine. Pretty simple, it is just a machine and learning how to operate and maintain it is pretty simple.

2) Garments. You need to know what garments can be embroidered, how they turn out, what stabilizer to use, thread tensions, hooping, etc. It isn't as simple as it looks.

3) Digitizing. It is an art form. The software will cost as much, if not more, than your single head machine. Even then, it will take you years to be able to do a good job with it. You will need to find a reliable puncher to do the work for a long while.

There you have it, figure $17K for a top of the line single head, $2000 in consumable supplies, $15K for digitizing software (Wilcom - top of the line) and then a bunch of customers.

Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
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Thank you for your insight. I was told by area embroiders that puff was the hardest and thats why I chose to start with that since no one around here wants to deal with it. I currently do DTG and i'm pretty connected to the garment guys in the area who all could use the puff service since most of us myself included get them done in California. Appreciate you.
 
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I am looking to get into brain surgery. Can anyone give me info on what are the best scalpels to buy. Your determination is commendable. The technical ability to produce retail level puf embroidery eludes almost all daily small embroidery shops. I am not sure about Barudan machines. I can say that for puf, Our Tajima that has adjustable off contact is what we use as it can be dialed in for the best results. I understand that the new cap holder design(not on our TMAR-K) is more rigid and the friction of sewing foam does create a lot of vertical movement. I don't know if the holding mechanism has been made any thinner but that would be an improvement for sewing visors. That is still a problem.
Thank you for your advice, No one in my area cares to do it because its so much work for this area I figure its a good start being there is no competition.Most of us myself included just send the job to California. I also have a clothing brand that has hats and I would like to add more hats
 
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Barudan are beast with hats once you get pass the learning curve.
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Default Re: Best Embroidery Machine to Start With For Hats? (3D Puff) is?

Good luck. We started embroidery not knowing anything about it. A couple of broken reciprocators and 3 machines later, here we are!

You are still insane though!
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