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Old September 8th, 2015 Sep 8, 2015 8:51:12 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question What embroidery machine do I buy? HELP!

Hello,
I am a printing business looking to expand into embroidery.

I have no clue which machine is the best on the market for my price range.

I can spend a maximum of £9000 inc vat.

I have been looking at the brother machine but also the AMAYA machines etc.

If you could help me out it would be much appreciated

Thanks Joseff
 
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Old September 8th, 2015 Sep 8, 2015 9:08:45 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: What embroidery machine do I buy? HELP!

There are lots of threads on that topic in this forum so I would start by reading the most recent discussions. I would also research the availability and cost of technical support in your area.

Do you know what type of embroidery work you'll do? Do you already have order requests?
 
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Thank you for your response but I am based in the UK and what i've read on here is talking about America?
 
 
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Default Re: What embroidery machine do I buy? HELP!

I would think you could read about the experiences people have had running Amaya, Brother and other machines. I wouldn't think the actual experiences would be too different although not necessarily perceived the same. You could do your own research about the availability of local tech support by calling manufacturer representatives in your area but I agree that it would be best to have local recommendations.
 
Old September 9th, 2015 Sep 9, 2015 5:51:43 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Joseff, Where abouts in the UK are you based?

I wouldn't use the brother PE-770. You will need a commercial machine rather than a home one.

Stocks in Leeds have a couple of used Brother and ZSK machines, Link Below

Used Embroidery Machines

There is also a SWF machine within your budget on Ebay.

SWF Embroidery Machine | eBay

If I was you I would find the extra and get the ZSK Sprint 5 from stocks.co.uk German made machine built to run 24/7 7days a week. I've got 4 Sprint's and they have never let me down.
 
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Hi Joseff, Where abouts in the UK are you based?

I wouldn't use the brother PE-770. You will need a commercial machine rather than a home one.

Stocks in Leeds have a couple of used Brother and ZSK machines, Link Below

Used Embroidery Machines

There is also a SWF machine within your budget on Ebay.

SWF Embroidery Machine | eBay

If I was you I would find the extra and get the ZSK Sprint 5 from stocks.co.uk German made machine built to run 24/7 7days a week. I've got 4 Sprint's and they have never let me down.
I agree can't go wrong with a ZSK if you got the funds. The best machine on the market
 
Old September 9th, 2015 Sep 9, 2015 11:39:20 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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Amaya Every time, I have a number of them and they are fantastic, streets ahead of the other machines imho.

You might struggle to get a new one for 9K though but certainly a good used will fall into budget - I might even consider selling one of mine!!
 
Old September 15th, 2015 Sep 15, 2015 5:30:37 AM -   #8 (permalink)
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Zsk's every time for me and I can highly recommend Stocks Sewing in Leeds - really helpful. You may be able to get a used ZSK but I would agree that the Sprints are great.

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Default Re: What embroidery machine do I buy? HELP!

When we added embroidery we first looked at the brother units which your £9k would cover but to be honest it's better to try and up your budget a little more. We've had a Tajima for a couple of years now and the only downside to it is that you wish you have more thane once machine to get more out.

Consider what the machine comes with. When we were looking the Brother packages were limited in what frames they came with, they also didn't come with a cap frame unless is was on a special offer. The Tajima wasn't much more in terms of money but is a real workhorse and comes with the cap frame and two set's of each frame so you can hoop up another garment whilst one is in production.
 
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Default Re: What embroidery machine do I buy? HELP!

9,000 is a very tight budget.

Machine is easy to come by in your budget but the biggest problem is you need
Software to go with the machine plus you need training on the software. Most
EMB companies have there own version of software or you can get an independent.
I would suggest going into a ZSK, Brother, or Amaya dealer and see what they will
sell you with the software, and put down 7,000 on the machine finance or lease with
buyout on the rest. Reserve 2,000 for thread set, sizing, and blanks to practice with.

What you need to start is a single head machine with six colors or more, 300x500 hoop
or bigger, hooping station like hoopmaster, Cap driver, Cap hoops, and Cap Guage, 36 main color
king cones, a selection backing stabilizer, topcoat stabilizer, prewound bobbins.
Creation software, to digitize customer logos with, basic professional design collection
display book for the designs, 10,000 designs on the computer mean nothing.

I am in midwest us, so don't know good suppliers in your area. But I bought my first machine off
of ebay got lucky and got everything listed above for 5,000 us. Had to upgrade the software
that cost me additional 1500 upgrade from wilcom. Paid a local tech 300 to tune and oil the machine
I took notes and was able to tune my own machine after that. Took another 50 hours of destroying
shirts to understand what could be done with the machine, and how to setup the software to give
a good design.

I wish you the best of luck
 
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I just received my first ZSK Sprint so far I love it. No training and ease of use and quality of sewing as good if not better than my Barudan. But thing I like most about the Sprint is the textra width from the bridge style design.
 
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Default Re: What embroidery machine do I buy? HELP!

You might struggle to get a new one for 9K though but certainly a good used will fall into budget - I might even consider selling one of mine!![/QUOTE]

Hello Simon, If you are considering selling a machine I would be interested as I am looking to add to our machines due to workload
 
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Amaya. I've owned one since 2004 and another since 2006 and both are still going strong. Added benefit is that if you expand and get more machines, you just network the new one in. You can embroider the same design on both or different on each one. They have worked really well for us.
 
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I currently own One ZSK Sprint and 7 month Old Melco and if I could afford to give away the Melco I would. No comparison at all the Melco can run at 1200 stitches but with all the thread breaks I get, the ZSK running at 1000 stitches per minute with no thread break is much more productive. I have owns Brothers back 1992 and Tajimas and Barudan's,. I would recommend ZSK, Barudan's and Tajima's but I will never recommend a Melco.
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I currently own One ZSK Sprint and 7 month Old Melco and if I could afford to give away the Melco I would. No comparison at all the Melco can run at 1200 stitches but with all the thread breaks I get, the ZSK running at 1000 stitches per minute with no thread break is much more productive. I have owns Brothers back 1992 and Tajimas and Barudan's,. I would recommend ZSK, Barudan's and Tajima's but I will never recommend a Melco.
Clearly down to user error then as I have 4 Melco Amaya XTS's and run them all day every day without issue and have done for years!
 






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