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Old 2 Weeks Ago Feb 12, 2020 4:53:46 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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After I print out a Image to be pressed I have black butcher paper that I purchased from Hobby Lobby I did one shirt it came out fine...I two two more and it left a black sahdow frame around the images....should I continue to use this black butcher paper, or should I flip it over on the lighter side and leave the dark side up facing me?
 
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Default Re: Butcher paper

Sounds like the heat is releasing dye in the paper. Never heard of black butcher paper - this may be the reason why.
 
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https://www.webstaurantstore.com/bak...433SLINER.html

Use once and toss
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After I print out a Image to be pressed I have black butcher paper that I purchased from Hobby Lobby I did one shirt it came out fine...I two two more and it left a black sahdow frame around the images....should I continue to use this black butcher paper, or should I flip it over on the lighter side and leave the dark side up facing me?
Butcher paper, scratch paper, blank newsprint, blowout paper or any other name(s) it goes by.... is a one and done use paper. Don't use it after its initial use or you risk outgassing of the previous print from the butcher paper (what you're most likely experiencing). Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there. Get white or manilla colored butcher paper and you'll see the outgassed ink.

I get mine locally at a shipping supplies store; 25lb bundle for around $20 and lasts a long time.
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We buy white by the roll off EBay couple times a year
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Thank you for this, Binki.
Ordered an Epson F570 and have read good and bad of all different cover sheets.
This looks easy and priced right.
 
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Default Re: Butcher paper

You should have:
White craft paper (it's consumable, use a couple of time and throw it out)
Light/White parchment paper (occasional use for finishing purposes)
Teflon sheet.
Everything else has consequences.
 
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You should have:
White craft paper (it's consumable, use a couple of time and throw it out)
Light/White parchment paper (occasional use for finishing purposes)
Teflon sheet.
Everything else has consequences.
Teflon should not be used for sublimation. That can also have consequences. It is made with poly fibers (PTFE), which can be stained with the outgassing, especially if used as a cover sheet/blowout paper, and transferred to your next project.

Parchment/Silicone sheets should suffice when such paper is needed. I currently only use parchment/silicone sheets when doing ceramic tiles.

Teflon is good when doing Heat Transfer Vinyl (HTV) or regular Heat Transfers using non-sublimation ink.
 
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Default Re: Butcher paper

Is this discussion in regards to needing blow through paper on the inside of the shirt or on top of the dye sub paper? I have never seen where ink blow through the dye sub and on to the top platen of a press. The only way I can see that happening is if you have very light weight paper. Regarding using such on the inside of the shirt. We never dye sublimated premade shirts often as the time it was taking to lint brush the shirt, cut the blow through paper to size, insert it into the shirt, etc literally ended up costing us as much as a cut and sew shirt. Recently we expanded into some off the shelf type products including shirts and turned to one of the big guys to see how they did it as there was no way they were spending so much time to press a shirt. We contacted Jackson at Vapor Apparel. Vapor probably dye subs as many shirts as all of us combined and the word from them? Forget the blow through paper entirely. They simply use light pressure with the pillows and have zero issue with the ink migrating from one side of the shirt to another. It took us some trail and error but in fact you do not need the paper at all. I cannot say if you can accomplish this with really light weight fabric on the less expensive shirts but using a Vapor shirt - no paper needed.
 
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Default Re: Butcher paper

Such papers are good for single use. Using it more than once possess such problems
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