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Default So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570 as soon as it becomes available?

It's perfect for what I do and I figure it will save me 35% of my cost to manufacture! I plan on going with Conde, the have the best tech support and after 7 years of buying supplies from various vendors, they have never failed me.

This printers cost and the ink costs are just to crazy good not to get it. Curious if anyone else feels the same way?
 
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Default Re: So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

Printers/Presses are in the same boat as hotdogs/hotdog buns, they just do not match up. So now you have a 24" printer yet most presses, before they jump up in size and $$$, are 20" thus to take advantage of the 24" you will need, in most cases to get a much larger press (approx. 30x40) which is huge $$$. Then you get the 30x40 press and then need a wide format printer. It never ends.
 
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Default Re: So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

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thus to take advantage of the 24" you will need, in most cases to get a much larger press (approx. 30x40) which is huge $$$.
Not necessarily the case unless you have demand for 24" wide prints on T shirts.

The real advantage of 24" format for T shirts is being able to save $$ by buying rolls of paper or lengths cut from rolls rather than the smaller width rolls or sheets which cost more.

Its very easy to gang designs when printing for use with smaller presses.

Since I found this thread i've watched a couple of video's of this machine & print quality & features of the machine look excellent.
 
 
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The real advantage of 24" format for T shirts is being able to save $$ by buying rolls of paper or lengths cut from rolls rather than the smaller width rolls or sheets which cost more.
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Do the math on how many items you would need to sell to just break even by the savings of roll paper. Paper is a pretty cheap piece of the dye sub.
 
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to take advantage of the 24" you will need, in most cases to get a much larger press (approx. 30x40) which is huge $$$.

Not true. Ideally, you always want your transfer paper size to be larger than your press to avoid paper lines on your garments.


A 24 inch paper roll is the perfect size for a 16X20 press when printing garments. A 17inch roll perhaps even better. I haven't done the math.
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Default Re: So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

Just to confuse matters it is being sold as the F500 in Europe and other countries, at about £1800 + 20% vat (sales tax).
The cost is about the same as four 13"/A3+ Epson L1300/Et1400 or L1800 ecotank printers all of which are based on the old 1430 Artisan/1500w.



Looks like a very nice machine, but assuming that you can get away with 13x19" paper,would you get a better yield from the smaller machines?
 
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Not true. Ideally, you always want your transfer paper size to be larger than your press to avoid paper lines on your garments.


A 24 inch paper roll is the perfect size for a 16X20 press when printing garments. A 17inch roll perhaps even better. I haven't done the math.
Please - you are going to spend $2,500 to get rid of paper lines? Do you actually dye sub? Some of your post are so far off base and not factual at times.
 
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but assuming that you can get away with 13x19" paper,would you get a better yield from the smaller machines?
Definitely. A smaller printer is less than 1/10th the cost of this one.

You would have to do the math. The larger your volume, the more the F570 might make sense:

Sheet paper is more expensive than roll. And roll paper can be used more efficiently (for example a mug wouldn't waste a whole sheet with roll paper).

Epson dye sub ink is pretty cheap compared to Cobra, and certainly compared to Sawgrass. Though I suppose there is nothing stopping you from buying the ink and using it in the smaller Epsons. Perhaps you wouldn't even need a profile.

And conceivable Epson's printers built specifically for dye sub would last longer than their WF 7xxx ones not built for dye sub. They tend to only last a year or so before they crap out. I'm on my 3rd one in 2 years.
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So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570 as soon as it becomes available?...
*Jedi mind trick*
You are going to buy the Epson F570 and give us all a review...
 
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Default Re: So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

What is different about the Epsons so called made for dye sub versus a standard desktop Epson?
 
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What is different about the Epsons so called made for dye sub versus a standard desktop Epson?
I assume the most vital part; the printhead.
 
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Default Re: So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

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I assume the most vital part; the printhead.
Same printhead/technology used on all their wide format printers as I understand it. The only thing that has truly changed in a decade with dye sub printhead technology is the HP Stitch.
 
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I assume the most vital part; the printhead.

Yes, the printheads on the F series are supposedly more commercial-grade since they would normally be used continuously as opposed to a desktop printer that would usually sit idle most of the time.
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Same printhead/technology used on all their wide format printers as I understand it. The only thing that has truly changed in a decade with dye sub printhead technology is the HP Stitch.
Newer technology compared to regular desktop printers like the WF's and 1430's, etc...

1430's and such use the Micro Piezo Technology and the new F570 uses the PrecisionCore MicroTFP print chip technology, which is an advanced form of Micro Piezo.

https://global.epson.com/innovation/...cro_piezo.html

Guessing the nozzles are more suited for dye sublimation as well as speed and quality...

I just know I want it LOL.
 
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Default Re: So who is going to purchase the new Epson F570....

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Newer technology compared to regular desktop printers like the WF's and 1430's, etc...

1430's and such use the Micro Piezo Technology and the new F570 uses the PrecisionCore MicroTFP print chip technology, which is an advanced form of Micro Piezo.

https://global.epson.com/innovation/...cro_piezo.html

Guessing the nozzles are more suited for dye sublimation as well as speed and quality...

I just know I want it LOL.
From everything I have read and heard it is the same printhead as with their other wide format printers. I have yet to see anything that states it has a specific printhead for dye sub. You may also want to check out the replacement cost of such head after the warranty is gone. Wide format Epson printheads are over $2000, for the printhead alone plus labor. Considering you need to replace all the dampers and such when changing the printhead you are at $4,000. If you can get the Epson extended warranty for a fair price - jump on it.
 






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