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Old October 24th, 2019 Oct 24, 2019 5:34:09 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default New Epson Surecolor F570 Dye Sub Desktop (kinda) Printer

Like an Ecotank with refillable ink from bottles.

Supports 24 inch wide paper. (no more paper lines!)

Epson dye sub ink is half the cost of Cobra's. 4.8oz bottle of ink $18. Cobra is $34 for 4oz.

Printer is $2,500.

https://dyetrans.com/epson
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I just got my e-mail from Conde about this. I guess we won't be getting any kind of review any time soon since it's so new. But what is the "cutter" thingie?
 
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But what is the "cutter" thingie?

When using roll paper, the printer cuts based on your paper size you designate in your design software.


Conde has several videos and the last one where they print an image shows the cutting.
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Thanks, man. I have now seen it in action in their video!
 
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I just got my e-mail from Conde about this. I guess we won't be getting any kind of review any time soon since it's so new. But what is the "cutter" thingie?
It is basically a sheet cutter. It will cut the paper size you selected (length) off the roll.
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Default Re: New Epson Surecolor F570 Dye Sub Desktop (kinda) Printer

This looks to be a great printer, I am also interested in it's quality.
I currently have the Epson Surecolor F6500 and love it. The only problem is, I'm trying to go mobile and it's a little big.
So, I'm looking to sell it and get into this 24" system. Hope it performs as well as the 6500.
 
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This looks to be a great printer, I am also interested in it's quality.
I currently have the Epson Surecolor F6500 and love it. The only problem is, I'm trying to go mobile and it's a little big.
So, I'm looking to sell it and get into this 24" system. Hope it performs as well as the 6500.

I'm sure if you email your vendor of choice with some images they would print out some sample transfers for you.


We know Conde has an open box demo.
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...Epson dye sub ink is half the cost of Cobra's. 4.8oz bottle of ink $18. Cobra is $34 for 4oz....
That's the first thing I checked when hearing about this too. Woohoo! And to think that I'm 90% saved up for purchasing the P800. Attention has moved to the F570 now. But I'll only be like 60% saved up for that one now LOL Damn you, new beautiful products!
 
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And to think that I'm 90% saved up for purchasing the P800.
I hadn't noticed that Epson before. Does cobra make all 8 ink colors for it?

Speaking of dye sublimation ink cost:

Epson = $3.75 per ounce

Cobra = $8.50 per ounce

Sawgrass = $60 per ounce! Ouch. Wouldn't take long at this rate to make up the higher cost for the Epson F570.
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I hadn't noticed that Epson before. Does cobra make all 8 ink colors for it?

Speaking of dye sublimation ink cost:

Epson = $3.75 per ounce

Cobra = $8.50 per ounch

Sawgrass = $60 per ounce! Ouch. Wouldn't take long at this rate to make up the higher cost for the Epson F570.
Yes. The CS9.2 dyesub inks.

And, it comes with:
2 Full Sets of CMYK Inks
(1) 24in x 100ft Roll of DS Transfer Multi Use Paper
(2) 17in x 100ft Roll of DS Transfer Multi Use Paper....

Thank goodness.

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Yes. The CS9.2 dyesub inks.

And, it comes with:
2 Full Sets of CMYK Inks
(1) 24in x 100ft Roll of DS Transfer Multi Use Paper
(2) 17in x 100ft Roll of DS Transfer Multi Use Paper....

Thank goodness.
Was also shocked to see how cheap roll paper was. I priced the 17 inch wide at Conde and could get 3 to 4 times the length of what i pay now for cut paper.

Not to mention the lack of waste with roll. If I just need a 5 inch print, I don't have to use a whole sheet like with cut paper.

Don''t get me wrong, $2,500 is a tough nut to crack for a dye sub printer when you're use to paying $250 for a 7110. But when I factor in ink and paper savings, and not having to refill cartridges at the most inopportune times, I may have to pull the trigger.
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Was also shocked to see how cheap roll paper was. I priced the 17 inch wide at Conde and could get 3 to 4 times the length of what i pay now for cut paper.

Not to mention the lack of waste with roll. If I just need a 5 inch print, I don't have to use a whole sheet like with cut paper.

Don''t get me wrong, $2,500 is a tough nut to crack for a dye sub printer when you're use to paying $250 for a 7110. But when I factor in ink and paper savings, and not having to refill cartridges at the most inopportune times, I may have to pull the trigger.
Preach brother!!
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Default Re: New Epson Surecolor F570 Dye Sub Desktop (kinda) Printer

Yeah, it's not some new, weird, off-brand product. Epson has many, many years of proving themselves. So, it's not much of a risk for those who are already doing this sort of thing--especially if they already have a customer base.

Anybody care to calculate when you'd expect a ROI?
 
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Anybody care to calculate when you'd expect a ROI?
Just depends on what you're selling and how much.

Mousepads @ $12ea x 125 units = $1,500
Koozies @ $3ea x 125 units = $375
Ceramic Coasters @ $5ea x 125 units = $625

Total $2,500

Shouldn't take that long if you're selling more than those items. I know I put $3 for koozies, but I sell them for $8-10 all day long, and ceramic coasters $6-7 each.
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Has anyone purchased this yet?
Or heard and first-hand reviews?
 






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