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Dye sublimation print on plastic

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Default Dye sublimation print on plastic

Hi, I am curious to know is there any way to print white on to dark-colored plastic. I am aware dye sublimation uses heat; this makes me think it could not be possible. However, usually, when I ask people in the context of something, I get surprised at the answers. I am looking for a low-cost method. All suggestions are very welcome. Thanks, Franken
 
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Default Re: Dye sublimation print on plastic

1. Dye sublimation does not have white ink. Just CMYK

2. You can't dye sublimate to plastic. Only to polyester.

3. Sublimation ink is transparent. You can't sublimate to dark objects. Sublimation works best on white objects though you can get away with light-colored objects.
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1. Dye sublimation does not have white ink. Just CMYK

2. You can't dye sublimate to plastic. Only to polyester.

3. Sublimation ink is transparent. You can't sublimate to dark objects. Sublimation works best on white objects though you can get away with light-colored objects.
Point number 2 - yes you can sublimate plastic. I have successfully sublimated cast acrylic sheet, in various base colours and Mylar sheets. Plastics contain polymers and, as long as they can withstand the temperature, most will sublimate well. Don't touch PVC though as it gives off toxic fumes.
 
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Default Re: Dye sublimation print on plastic

As mentioned above, you cannot sublimate white onto anything darker. Depending on the number you need to do and how resistant it needs to be to scratching, the white toner lasers might be an option.
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Point number 2 - yes you can sublimate plastic. I have successfully sublimated cast acrylic sheet, in various base colours and Mylar sheets. Plastics contain polymers and, as long as they can withstand the temperature, most will sublimate well. Don't touch PVC though as it gives off toxic fumes.





Just to prove my point, here's a sugar-skull test print I made to 3mm white, cast, acrylic sheet ...








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NOTE: This is uncoated acrylic, straight from the plastics supplier.

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Just to prove my point, here's a sugar-skull test print I made to 3mm white, cast, acrylic sheet ...








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NOTE: This is uncoated acrylic, straight from the plastics supplier.
Impressive! Time, temp and pressure? Thinking it would be interesting to sublimate on the back side of clear cast acrylic and then back with a white sheet or maybe UV ink. Then again, you can always just do the whole thing with UV...
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Time 60 secs, temp 190 C, pressure very light. Hardest part is keeping them flat after pressing.
 
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Of course there is no worry about fading after washing but is there any fading of the ink on acrylic over time?
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Of course there is no worry about fading after washing but is there any fading of the ink on acrylic over time?
I've had sample pieces lying around indoors for a year now and they're still like new. If used outside though, or in direct sunlight for any period of time, I would imagine the UV light would eventually cause fading.
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Time 60 secs, temp 190 C, pressure very light. Hardest part is keeping them flat after pressing.
Makes sense. I wonder if putting weights on them while still warm would help. Might have to give that a try!
 
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Default Re: Dye sublimation print on plastic

The question you asked is, { Can you print white on dark plastic?}
The answer is yes.
You can purchase a white toner laser printer to do this. You also require the special release paper for this purpose.
You can also sublimate onto clear and dark plastic using sublimation toner and white toner.
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