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Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

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Old February 24th, 2007 Feb 24, 2007 9:15:56 PM -   #31 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

I haven't seen one in person. I was just going by their own website where Chromablast says it has a "soft hand". So that's good news. I also wonder about the white area around the design. It says it washes out after the first wash. But you usually do not wash a shirt before giving it to the customer. I wonder if this will cause concern for some customers.
 
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Old February 25th, 2007 Feb 25, 2007 6:38:05 AM -   #32 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

Check this out ChromaBlast especially if you're in Canada. I'd really love to hear from someone who has used this system. It sounds interesting but kinda expensive... $100 for 100 sheets! With dye-sub you can do other things.. mugs and stuff, but, this does cotton shirts which I really like... hmmm pros and cons I guess.
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

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My son has a Red Hot Chilli Peppers T-Shirt with a two color design on the front... It says it's 100% cotton on the tag. There is NO hand or very very very little... It is a white shirt... ???? any ideas as to what this is? Maybe the ink T-Bot was speaking of?
screen printing regular plastisol inks on a white t-shirt can leave a very light hand since it doesn't require an extra white ink base to cover the shirt color.

It could also be water based ink screen printing.
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Old March 8th, 2007 Mar 8, 2007 7:37:08 PM -   #34 (permalink)
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

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Check this out ChromaBlast especially if you're in Canada. I'd really love to hear from someone who has used this system. It sounds interesting but kinda expensive... $100 for 100 sheets! With dye-sub you can do other things.. mugs and stuff, but, this does cotton shirts which I really like... hmmm pros and cons I guess.
I haven't used the system itself so I can't attest to its ease of use, but as to the end product -- I picked up a sample at the ISS Fort Worth show and my husband has been wearing and washing it since October. It had a very vibrant print that washed out a fair amount in the first wash, but it has held its colors since the first wash. My thought was that if I used it, it would be for designs that are meant to look a little faded, and I would put on stickers or hangtags that said something like "Made to Fade". It isn't that dull, just compared to the original print it is.

The hand was almost nonexistent and is probably second only to the other sample I picked up at the show, one printed on the Brother DTG. I was really impressed but have not taken the plunge for the same reasons as you and probably many others -- the cost per print for both the paper and the ink and the white-only limitation.

Sawgrass does claim that it's like sublimation in that it doesn't rest on top of the fibers like plastisol or digital transfers, but bonds with the cotton fibers. I don't understand the chemical process well enough to know if this is a fair claim, though.
 
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screen printing regular plastisol inks on a white t-shirt can leave a very light hand since it doesn't require an extra white ink base to cover the shirt color.
But, if you can't use plastisol, because you are printing and transfering (on demand at event location), would the IronAll or Chromablast be best for photo images?

Sorry if that is a silly questions, still learning about it all.

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But, if you can't use plastisol, because you are printing and transfering (on demand at event location), would the IronAll or Chromablast be best for photo images?

Sorry if that is a silly questions, still learning about it all.

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Yep, for photo printed shirts on demand, an inkjet heat transfer or a color laser printer heat transfer would be better than plastisol. It's basically your only option in that case except for dye sub.
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They would be the less expensive but dye-sub would give the best results.
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Old September 5th, 2007 Sep 5, 2007 10:47:48 AM -   #38 (permalink)
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They would be the less expensive but dye-sub would give the best results.

David,

I took a look at some of your designs on the Tshirts. IMPRESSIVE. Do you guys do those with the sye-sub process you descirbed above.
 
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

I am new to the business of making t-shirts and uniforms and I could use some help! I print mainly soccer jersey's and they are more of a poly blend and the trouble I am having is that there seems to be a burn mark on every jersey I print. Some are more noticeable that others but I am not sure what to do, does any one have any suggestions?
 
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I am new to the business of making t-shirts and uniforms and I could use some help! I print mainly soccer jersey's and they are more of a poly blend and the trouble I am having is that there seems to be a burn mark on every jersey I print. Some are more noticeable that others but I am not sure what to do, does any one have any suggestions?
Some material is just not suitable for DyeSub because it cannot withstand 400 degrees temps. If it's truly a burn, then all you can do is try to lower the temp and/or dwell time and see if you can get an acceptable result without burning the material. It may not be possible.
 
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

Some fabrics press better than others. Some of the looser knit ploys will flatten under the pressure of the press showing a "window" of your press. Tighter knits aren't as likely to be a problem. Also, you mentioned that your jerseys were a poly blend. If your press is running on the hot side, you could be burning the cotton part of your jersey or melting the poly. You might want to get some samples of different brands of jerseys and see what works best for you.


I can't recommend enough getting a good quality pyrometer and checking the accuracy of your press temperature in several areas of the press temperature. Many pressed, especially the foreign ones aren't very accurate and often have hot spots. Don't try to use one of those infra red non contact heat guns. They won't give you accurate results. Get a real pyrometer for accurate results.

You can get a pyrometer from knight among other places and it's well worth the investment. Once you know the accuracy of your press and if you have hot spots, you can begin the process of adjusting your temperature, pressure, and time.
 
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Ok I know I will get it for this but you can do 50/50 and cotton now with new transfer paper from china here is pic
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

I thought this was so helpful ! White Rain !

For cotton ,are you using inkjet transfers ..laser,chromoblast or something else ?
Do you have favorite papers ? I am a direct printer ( Flexi Jet-L)...But do lots of sampling for a toy company on all types of materials ..am always looking for new ways ..Thanks !
 
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Default Re: Does dye sublimation *have* to be on the polyester style tees?

I cannot find any wholesalers who offer 70/30 or 65/35 blends. Can anyone post a link to any such site, it would be greatly appreciated.

I am also having trouble finding an online vendor with a functioning store that offers Vapor Performance shirts. I can only find the regular vapor shirts offered. Tho I can find plenty of descriptions of the Vapor performance material and it sounds pretty attractive. If only I could find some to buy.

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I cannot find any wholesalers who offer 70/30 or 65/35 blends. Can anyone post a link to any such site, it would be greatly appreciated.

I am also having trouble finding an online vendor with a functioning store that offers Vapor Performance shirts. I can only find the regular vapor shirts offered. Tho I can find plenty of descriptions of the Vapor performance material and it sounds pretty attractive. If only I could find some to buy.

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I get all of my Vapor performance apparel from either The Paper Ranch or Conde. Both are good companies and sell the performance apparel on-line.
 






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