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Old November 14th, 2013 Nov 14, 2013 7:08:40 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Here are some samples and comparisons with the new Image Armor light shirt pretreat that will release in December. Brian Walker was nice enough to send me some to beta test with. These are all 100% cotton shirts so I have not tapped into the 100% poly capabilities it has yet. Brian tells me the results on 100% poly are awesome. These photos below are shirts I just printed so I have not wash tested anything yet. I will post more shots after washing.
I was able to compare one of the shirts to an older version of the print which was done via waterbased screen printing. The DTG print with image armor is better than the screen print which is pretty cool. I also compared a lower grade shirt (gildan 2000) using image armor to a better shirt (next level ringspun) using dupont. Image armor makes the gildan look way better than the next level. The red and gray shirt (next levels) with the Breaking Bad design is image armor pretreat. The red shirt has no pretreat box or marks which is great. This is just a review I am giving my results and opinion I have no affiliation to Image Armor - take it for what it's worth.







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Old November 14th, 2013 Nov 14, 2013 7:32:42 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Yeah its very impressive stuff!! I have done a couple things with it and was quite surprised by the outcome.
 
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

i'm almost out of my AA light shirt pretreat, so i hope the Image Armour gets released early in December as planned!
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

I forgot to mention that screen printed one has also never been washed
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Jeff

Have you tried any polyester with the LIGHT Shirt Formula? I had someone in Fl say they did a neon polyester which came out great! but I'm still waiting for better pictures.
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Old December 3rd, 2013 Dec 3, 2013 7:54:44 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

I have some high biz green ones. I will try something on those and post a photo.
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Old December 17th, 2013 Dec 17, 2013 2:08:19 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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Jeff - are you using the Image Armor in your Viper?
 
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

I know I'm late to this conversation, but I just tried the Image Armor for Lights and I'm BLOWN AWAY! The improvement in the prints I get is DRAMATIC... sharper, brighter, cleaner! Not only that, I printed on a 100% Poly "Dri-Fit" shirt and was STUNNED at how good the print looked. I have a silk-screened example to compare it to and you can't tell the difference at all (except the feel is softer from the DTG). I also washed all of the test shirts (including the poly) 3x and dried them and saw no fading whatsoever.

If ANYONE has been disappointed with the prints you've been getting with your DTG printer, try this stuff immediately. You will be glad you did!

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Glad you liked it!
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Old July 22nd, 2014 Jul 22, 2014 10:40:58 PM -   #10 (permalink)
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I know I'm late to this conversation, but I just tried the Image Armor for Lights and I'm BLOWN AWAY! The improvement in the prints I get is DRAMATIC... sharper, brighter, cleaner! Not only that, I printed on a 100% Poly "Dri-Fit" shirt and was STUNNED at how good the print looked. I have a silk-screened example to compare it to and you can't tell the difference at all (except the feel is softer from the DTG). I also washed all of the test shirts (including the poly) 3x and dried them and saw no fading whatsoever.

If ANYONE has been disappointed with the prints you've been getting with your DTG printer, try this stuff immediately. You will be glad you did!

Carol

Hi Carol, how well did the colors match between the silk-screened example and the DTG print? I'm only asking because we have some very strict customers, and only a few people from our screen-printing department have a good eye for color matching.
 
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Hi Carol, how well did the colors match between the silk-screened example and the DTG print? I'm only asking because we have some very strict customers, and only a few people from our screen-printing department have a good eye for color matching.
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I've been a designer and worked in printing (paper) for a long time (since the 80s) and using Photoshop since I beta tested it before it came out, so I'm pretty good with color matching (although it's always a challenge with a new printer and takes lots of experimentation). I was able to get a perfect match on this shirt, but since I was just working with bright red and black it wasn't as big of a challenge as other colors are (are you trying to do a pantone match?). The pretreat won't really help much with matching the colors except that it will make your blacks much blacker and bump the intensity & brightness of the colors... but exact PMS matching is always a severe challenge with CMYK printing. And, as I'm sure you're aware, RGB creates a lot of colors that aren't possible in CMYK. I wish someone would invent a DTG printer with 6 ink colors (7 including white). The colors would be massively brighter and you could match PMS much closer.

One thing that helped me get better at matching colors (or at least helped me get better at achieving consistent results from Photoshop to my printer) was that I printed out the Pantone CMYK color library in photoshop. When I have to match a specific color for a logo, I can find the closest match on the printouts, show the client that, and if they approve, I can call that up in PS, sample it and adjust my color to that specific color. It's kind of convoluted, but at least then the client knows what to expect and if they aren't happy with it, they can decide to have it printed silkscreen with spot colors. I'm fairly new in the shirt biz, so this hasn't been a problem yet, but I'm looking for some local screen printers to team up with so we can help each other out with fussy clients.

Hope that helps. (As I mentioned, before I tried the Image Armour I was very unhappy with the color and had a very small range I thought was acceptable... now my range of colors that make me happy has expanded dramatically.)

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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Thank you so much, Carol! That's exactly what I was looking for. I may have some more questions, if that's Ok. I agree about having both options of screen printing ad DTG. Screen printing is necessary, in my opinion.
 
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Any pictures after wash cycle available?
 
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Hi Carol - are you producing mostly light shirts or dark shirts with this new PT and what DTG printer are you running? Do you manually apply the PT or do you have a machine? TIA! - Karen
 
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Default Re: Image Armor light shirt Pretreat

Is it true that distributors get the concentrated version, that they mix up with water and that will give the final ready-to-use version for the end-customer? Here everyone states that the the pretreat need not to be diluted, im just wondering if it is becasue the dilution is done by the distributor?
 






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