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Old August 8th, 2009 Aug 8, 2009 7:14:11 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there I am new to the viper, and having alot of trouble with black ink. We washed a tshirt 6 times and the black ink has turned a washed out grey. Can anyone help me please. Very frustrated..
 
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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

What print settings are you using? What ink are you using? Also what is your method of curing the ink. These answers will help us see if we can help you
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We use DTG TEX ink, that came with the machine. We did the print on 720 X 720, as the customer wants a really jet black print. We have it on Variable 2 and 1 pass.
 
 
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What rip software are you using? are you using print pro or rip pro. I am thinking those settings sound like print pro settings. What is your time and temp that you are curing. Are you printing white ink also, or are all of your lines the cmyK?
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We are using Print Pro. Sorry about that. We have our heat press set to 170 and we leave the tshirt under for 120 seconds. We didn't print the white ink, as it was a white tshirt. Should we have?
 
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No I was just wondering if you had white ink in those lines because that can make a difference on what I am going to tell you If you had all colors then you would print a lighter layer, but with those ink lines filled with white, then a heavier layer is better

But anyways haha, I would print either a double layer of 720 x 720, or print at 1440 x 1440. I myself find that printing two layers at 720 x 720 gives the best results. From a conversion chart I looked at, your temp should be fine, since I cure at around 330 degrees and your time should be fine as well. So that is pretty close.

I would definitely try printing a double layer
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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

We use print pro. Our time for curing is 120 sec at 170 we didn't print white as it was a white tshirt and the black was cmyk.
 
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My reason for asking if you were printing white was that some people only print cmyk, so their ink lines have Cyan, magenta, Yellow and black. Then they have light black, light cyan, and light magenta in the other lines so if a printer is set up like that naturally it would lay more color ink, then if they had the light colors with white ink. Does this make sense ? So that is what I was basing my answer on , is if you have white ink in your printer or not
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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

Thankyou. We will try your suggestion and see if that works. No doubt it will.
 
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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

I would suggest that you also verify that the temperature gauge on your press is correct. The time and temperature you are using are correct, but the gauge may be off. Also, do some testing on different brands of shirts as well.

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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

Instead of using 2 layers and to speed thin gs up a bit I would use a 75% colour boost. This is what I use and have no problems at all. It lays down alot more ink 1440 x 1440 will make the ink bleed out.
 
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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

Hi, where is the setting for the color boost?
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Default Re: New to DTG Viper

DTG Print Pro Colour boost is located just under the file bar or on earlier versions it is in the Print Setup/properties/colour correction screen.
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