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[DTG Kiosk 2] Items per hour

 
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Old March 25th, 2009 Mar 25, 2009 9:37:20 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering what everyone is getting out of the DTG Kiosk 2 for production runs. It I get aroun 8 to 10 per hour no matter what I do. That is 5 minuits a shirt.


On the website they are stating it get between 20 to 30 per hour.

How do you speed it up on to reach that amount?
 
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Old March 26th, 2009 Mar 26, 2009 5:20:14 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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You could do 20/hour if you have multiple plattens and are only doing small designs like a left chest and you production run the design. I have 2 plattens and I typically do around 10/hour as well.
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Old March 26th, 2009 Mar 26, 2009 7:18:59 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Items per hour

On light colored shirts I can generally get 15-20 per hour for a 6 x 10, 7 x 12 design. This assumes a couple of things, number one - at least 1 extra platen, number two - two heat presses (as this can be the true bottleneck and I like to "pre-press" shirts before printing). On pocket prints I can get 40 or so per hour, partially due to the fact that I press 2 at a time to cure them. Full front shirts will take more time, though 3-4 minutes is about max for a light garment design. Solid images can often be printed at 720 x 360 - Vivid Darker and about double your throughput - but you will definitely need at least two heat presses to keep up.

With an HM-1, my wife and I did 120 shirts we donated for a women's event with a 6 x 10 design on them in a little over 2 1/2 hours, we ran two heat presses, three shrit boards and one HM-1. That's about 45-50 per hour, and all my wife was doing was pre-pressing shirts and folding them after they were finished.

Its all about having a system and determining the best resolution to print the image at. You can sometimes lower the resolution and tweak your saturation to get good results and a significant speed increase.

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I am doing a run at present of 480 shirts and get 18 per hour on light shirt large print 11x14. then I run the pocket logos at 30 p hour on the other. get 2 platttens so one is hopped awaitng to go staright in. You will be suprised how much time you will dave having a shirt always ready and a organised work space.
 
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Thanks Grant, glad to have a "real user" confirm the numbers I've been able to attain myself.

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I think and know that alot of time can be wasted form hooping and transfering for bed to heat press. Over 1 hour this can be 5 shirts easy
 
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Another thing that I've noticed is that you can work much faster if you save your prints so Rip Pro doesn't have to process them over and over again. Save your settings on runs and it's much faster.
 
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i am running with two platttens and have it hooped before its over. One on the heat press and one in the machine with time to waste. I was seeing if I needed to adjust a setting.

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i am running with two platttens and have it hooped before its over. One on the heat press and one in the machine with time to waste. I was seeing if I needed to adjust a setting.

Thanks everyone..
We just finished a 325 shirt job front, back and 1 sleeve,the front and back image was like 11x7 and with one heat press and two plattens we were getting 25 to 27 prints per hour.We used 720x360 vivid darker setting times 2 pass it took about 45 sec per pass.At these settings the shirt was out of the printer before the 2 min was up on the press.
 
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I am running 720x720. Do you see a diffrence if you do 720x320?
 
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[quote=tchrisp;473873]I am running 720x720. Do you see a diffrence if you do 720x320?[/quote

For me it workes great,what do you think?
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Default Re: Items per hour

The production speed of a shop is contingent on some many things that it is difficult for a prospective buyer to determine what they realistically achieve. When in doubt, a prospective customer should go with low to conservative numbers when looking at the different printers. Here are top 10 factors that I look at when recommend printers to certain people.

1. What resolution / # of passes will be required by the customer to make the purchase?
2. What type of pretreatment process is being used? By hand, automatic pretreater, no pretreatment. The pretreatment time should be counted in the production time.
3. Are you talking about the same file or are you talking about printing diffent files. You can save time by using a production run feature with most RIPs if you are printing the same exact file. Any changes to the file (i.e. names, numbers,...) will require the file to be ripped again which can take additional time.
4. What amount of artwork manipulation are you doing to each graphic? The more time you spend on artwork, the less production / printing time you will have. Some graphics may need to be tweaked / changed to come out good depending on your graphic software program, printer and RIP settings.
5. What is your curing process and the equipment you are using? If you have a conveyor dryer or multiple heat presses, you probably don't have a backlog on the curing process that would slow down the production levels. This especially helps when you have small designs or ones with low coverage.
6. What size of a print and what coverage is the graphic? You can have a 10" x 10" with low coverage that will print much faster than a graphic with heavy / full coverage depending on the firmware on your printer.
7. Are you printing white ink? White ink goes down at a higher resolution and will add a significant amount more time compared to printing on dark garments.
8. Can you load a garment on a 2nd platen while another one is printing? This can minimize the time where the printer is not printing and thus increase your production levels.
9. Do testing (printing and wash) in advance on different manufacturers/ brands / color / sizes to make sure that the garment will print well. I strongly recommend against not offering to your customers the entire wholesaler's catalog to choose from. Some shirts just don't lead to a good dtg product and this can hurt your business.
10. Do you have color management practices setup? If you have proper color management practices setup, then you should not have to run as many test prints before you start your production.

... and I am sure that others can add to this list as well.

But probably the most important factor in my opinion is the operator. dtg printing is not just as simple as touch a button and watch a finished shirt come out that is properly cured. There is still skill involved in dtg printing and that is why the operator is so important.

Nice conversation for prospective customers. Best wishes to everyone.

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Wow 720 x320 helps out alot. Looks great with 2 passes.
 
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Also with print speed that can help a little is are you printing uni or Bi directional ?? I do find with using 720 x 320 I do a colour boost of 15. I print 2 layers normally at 720 x 720 and find the results are very good and very long lasting. Atfer 25 washies only around 5% wash out MAX using hasrsh washing conditions. You will have to cure for 2.5 minutes though as you have more ink to cure.
 
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Running at 720 x 360 vivid darker 2 passes do you not het banding? Are you running the bulk ink system or just the regular system that came with the kiosk? When I run 720 X 360 yes the speed is fantasic but the final product isn't up to the quality because of the ink starvation and banding. Is there a different setting that you use? Thanks
 






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