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Old May 17th, 2016 May 17, 2016 5:18:03 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all,

I'm interested in getting into dtg printing but if I did, it would initially be a part time endeavor mainly to supplement my own clothing label and then possibly expanding in the future.

Is it worth investing in a printer if I will only be able to use it part time? So far I've read that you will have issues with ink clogging if it is not used every couple of days. Does that mean that I would have to potentially purchase new ink or heads each time I wanted to use it? Is there no way of cleaning them intensively and disconnecting the ink prior to shutting it down to avoid this?

Any info or thoughts would be much appreciated!

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DTG is not for part time use. These machines take more care than any other
type of garment decorating.
I have been screen printing for 26 years and also had a DTG printer for
10 of those years. The DTG machine took more maintenance than our
manual, auto screen printer, embroidery machines, vinyl cutter, print and
cut machine put together.
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DTG is not for part time use. These machines take more care than any other
type of garment decorating.
I have been screen printing for 26 years and also had a DTG printer for
10 of those years. The DTG machine took more maintenance than our
manual, auto screen printer, embroidery machines, vinyl cutter, print and
cut machine put together.
What DTG do you have?
 
 
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Thanks for the info,

How much maintenance do they need? I'd be happy to spend an hour or two setting up each time, but if it would require fresh ink/cartridges or any other expensive consumables then I could see how it would not really be worth it financially...
 
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Hello all,

I'm interested in getting into dtg printing but if I did, it would initially be a part time endeavor mainly to supplement my own clothing label and then possibly expanding in the future.

Is it worth investing in a printer if I will only be able to use it part time? So far I've read that you will have issues with ink clogging if it is not used every couple of days. Does that mean that I would have to potentially purchase new ink or heads each time I wanted to use it? Is there no way of cleaning them intensively and disconnecting the ink prior to shutting it down to avoid this?

Any info or thoughts would be much appreciated!

Thanks.
It is worth the investment because the financial reward is great. But you need to have a reliable printer that circulates the white ink and does not uses cartridges.
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It is worth the investment because the financial reward is great. But you need to have a reliable printer that circulates the white ink and does not uses cartridges.
Thanks James,

I was researching different printing methods mostly out of curiosity which lead to DTG and on to DTG's Viper2 which is what sort of spawned my interest in doing some of my print work myself. Obviously it would be a substantial outlay initially but I figured that with the savings I would be making by printing my own label as opposed to outsourcing and then eventually getting clients it would pay itself off in time...

The only thing I'm unsure about after reading many posts (because I have zero experience in this field) is whether or not I can let the printer sit idle for weeks on end and if so, will it require replacement parts each time I start it up? My main job has me travelling away from home for up to 2 weeks at a time...
 
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Thanks James,

I was researching different printing methods mostly out of curiosity which lead to DTG and on to DTG's Viper2 which is what sort of spawned my interest in doing some of my print work myself. Obviously it would be a substantial outlay initially but I figured that with the savings I would be making by printing my own label as opposed to outsourcing and then eventually getting clients it would pay itself off in time...

The only thing I'm unsure about after reading many posts (because I have zero experience in this field) is whether or not I can let the printer sit idle for weeks on end and if so, will it require replacement parts each time I start it up? My main job has me travelling away from home for up to 2 weeks at a time...
In your situation I don't think a Viper 2 would be a good idea.
 
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What DTG do you have?
I have a T-Jet 1
It is for sale for $600.00 and just needs a
print head and bulk ink system to work.
 
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I have a T-Jet 1
It is for sale for $600.00 and just needs a
print head and bulk ink system to work.
I just looked at T-Jet on the forum, Now I see why you mentioned the high need for maintenance. What age is the T-Jet 1?

We use the Resolute DTG printers and are very happy as the only cleaning we do is at the end of the day and takes about 10 min. The circulating white ink means we don't need to clean the white tubes each week..
 
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Default Re: A part time business risk...

Not sure the comments from Crazy Mike are useful. Like any technology, every year there are new advances and better systems. So when he bought the machine and which machine he owned might be different now.

I am still investigating myself, I have determined from most of the conversations on this forum that there are a few good printers and some that are junk. I was originally looking at the DTG D2 or Viper, however, from comments here it appears to be junk.

I will wait until I get back from NBM Indy show to decide on technology. DTG seems to take the most labor of the other printing alternatives to screen printing. If I go DTG the printer will have to have an auto maintenance feature for flushing the print head.

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Default Re: A part time business risk...

Thanks for everyone's input. Based on what Shane is asking for and describing his situation (leaving the machine 2 weeks at a time frequently) it is probably not a good match to consider direct to garment printing inhouse until the need is great enough to have need to use the machine more frequently.


Direct to garment printing does not require more labor than other methods of decoration. Ever try doing an order of 24 shirts, 4-5 colors, with heat transfer vinyl? Direct to garment printers do require attention, just as any specialty printer does. The more they are used, the less issues you will experience.


My advice to Shane would be to have is shirts done by a wholesale direct to garment source or have plastisol transfers done and invest into a heat press and press them to the proper shirts as needed - until the demand becomes to high and then move into self production.
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I'm a part timer in the tee shirt that's why I choose the 330tx by omniprint. I can leave it sit for a few days with no problems. Go on the Dtg Facebook and search out omnipaul he can answer your questions. Goodluck.

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A couple of days is certainly acceptable for all major brands of direct to garment printers on the marketplace. Shane asked about leaving the machine for two weeks at a time on a regular basis. While we have left machines here down for that long, it is not something that is advised as a normal practice.
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Default Re: A part time business risk...

Thank you to everyone for your sage advice and opinions, I have done a bit of reading into DTG but the effect of downtime on the machine is something that I could not really find any information about (that wasn't ambiguous or relevant for periods of more than a couple of days). It was also not a question I wanted to approach a supplier with in fear of them saying yes simply to make a sale!

I'm going to hold off and might come back and address it in 12 months or so...

Thanks again guys!
 






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