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Old October 23rd, 2014 Oct 23, 2014 3:54:46 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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The new Firebird Pretreat FBX-100 does wonders in terms of preventing fibrilation. We are testing it from some time now and it significantly reduce fibrilation.
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Old October 23rd, 2014 Oct 23, 2014 9:07:12 AM -   #32 (permalink)
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Does the new fb pretreat feels sticky or glue isch after pressing?
 
Old October 26th, 2014 Oct 26, 2014 8:01:48 AM -   #33 (permalink)
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It did when we tried it... It might have changed with any formula change... The best results we have had is with image armor pretreatment and dupont inks. As far as fibrillation it is one part pretreatment application, one part how your press and one part the shirt you use. We trained our self on PC61 which have a high fibrillation. I wish we just picked a better short to do the training. Would of cost less! These shirts are great for silk screening but will take extra care for DTG printing. As I mentioned before pick a good quality shirt that fits your process and is easy to restock.
 
 
Old October 26th, 2014 Oct 26, 2014 8:05:12 AM -   #34 (permalink)
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It did when we tried it... It might have changed with any formula change... The best results we have had is with image armor pretreatment and dupont inks. As far as fibrillation it is one part pretreatment application, one part how your press and one part the shirt you use. We trained our self on PC61 which have a high fibrillation. I wish we just picked a better short to do the training. Would of cost less! These shirts are great for silk screening but will take extra care for DTG printing. As I mentioned before pick a good quality shirt that fits your process and is easy to restock.
PC61 shirts I have to dilute my DuPont pretreatment then almost soak the shirts!
 
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We learned to do it full strength but with Image Armor and had a great success rate once we get a good solid process down....Never thought about diluting..I personally do not like Dupont pretreatment. I have found it less forgiving than Image Armor.
 
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We learned to do it full strength but with Image Armor and had a great success rate once we get a good solid process down....Never thought about diluting..I personally do not like Dupont pretreatment. I have found it less forgiving than Image Armor.
Makes sense and yeah I think that in some areas Image Armor does a great job. DuPont is forgiving if diluted 60/40 or 50/50. You just have to see what works for you. Image Armor's price point and print ability is great. It is a great product
 
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I like that dilution idea. Like we said just got to find what works for you...

schenk not sure when you are at but DTG INK has great customer service if you need supplies.
 
Old October 26th, 2014 Oct 26, 2014 8:38:33 AM -   #38 (permalink)
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So the idea is by diluting the pretreatment you can add more of it thus soaking the shirt more and causing the fibers to go down easier when curing the pretreatment. Am i getting this right?
 
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I like that dilution idea. Like we said just got to find what works for you...

schenk not sure when you are at but DTG INK has great customer service if you need supplies.
I totally agree and thanks. If you need a hand with anything anytime let me know
 
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So the idea is by diluting the pretreatment you can add more of it thus soaking the shirt more and causing the fibers to go down easier when curing the pretreatment. Am i getting this right?
Correct that is exactly what I'm saying or just us Image Amor straight up

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Does anyone know where I can buy Image Amor in the UK?
 
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Default Re: DTG Viper 2

USe a different shirt and also buy a high quality paint brush to quickly brush the fibers flat in one direction (top to bottom) on the entire pretreated area. Not everyone does this, but if you are having fibrilation issues (which smalzstein is correct it definitely is fibrilation) then you need to try the brush method. Some brands of shirts have fibrilation issues way more than others. I use Next Level which has zero issues with fibrilation if pretreated correctly. This problem you are showing has nothing to do with the printer but the shirts you are using and the way you are curing. Another thing that will probably fix the problem without brushing the fibers flat is to hover your heating element over the shirt for 30 seconds or so and then press.
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USe a different shirt and also buy a high quality paint brush to quickly brush the fibers flat in one direction (top to bottom) on the entire pretreated area. Not everyone does this, but if you are having fibrilation issues (which smalzstein is correct it definitely is fibrilation) then you need to try the brush method. Some brands of shirts have fibrilation issues way more than others. I use Next Level which has zero issues with fibrilation if pretreated correctly. This problem you are showing has nothing to do with the printer but the shirts you are using and the way you are curing. Another thing that will probably fix the problem without brushing the fibers flat is to hover your heating element over the shirt for 30 seconds or so and then press.
When you say paint brush, do you mean a brush or roller..?
 
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He means a brush...a roller tends to "grab" fibers and raise them up after rolling over them. Here is a link to the brush that most of us use:

Wooster Brush
 
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He means a brush...a roller tends to "grab" fibers and raise them up after rolling over them. Here is a link to the brush that most of us use:

Wooster Brush
Thank you for the link.. I'll look for one here in the UK. Also are you heat press drying or tunnel??? I was thinking of getting a tunnel.
 






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