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Comicsans February 27th, 2016 01:13 PM

R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
I have been using cartridges and bagged ink for my r3000 printer for about a year with minimal problems (had a couple faulty cartridges initially).

I am wondering if there would be better inkflow if dampers were placed on the ink supply system instead of using cartridges?


Anyone do this with their R3000 or p600?

jgabby February 27th, 2016 11:40 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
months I switched to dampers, and I prefer over ink cartridge. You have a better ink flow.

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...31907270_o.jpg



An next step for me, are the head dampers
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...57916337_o.jpg


Come on t-dozer facebook page, it is a fun DIY growing community on T-dozer board and P600

estrada February 28th, 2016 11:20 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgabby (Post 3534474)
months I switched to dampers, and I prefer over ink cartridge.

That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing. May I ask, How are you attaching your resettable cartridge chips inside the ink bay?

jgabby February 29th, 2016 12:19 AM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Ink supply and ink chip reader can be separate if you remove plastic housing.

Hence the plastic housing is on the left side of the printer with empty cartridge.


http://i63.tinypic.com/2mpj5g6.jpg

estrada February 29th, 2016 03:35 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
That's clever. Thanks for the tip

Comicsans March 1st, 2016 07:30 AM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Wow!

Cool work!

I will definitely check out he page

djmobil2 March 2nd, 2016 06:16 AM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Hello,
I bought a P600 for doing the DTG conversion but haven't decided between T-Dozer and UFOPrint yet. Both offers great kits but with their own pros and cons. The most concerning part of taking the time and put the money on the investment is the print head clogging issues. I would like to know where to buy those dampers and if there's any forum or vendor who has the installation and setting instructions. Thank you in advance for any recommendations or advice on this matter.

jgabby March 2nd, 2016 06:29 AM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Don't think, get t-dozer, a growing community that helps each other.

I will post all what you want to know on t-dozer facebook page within 2 weeks, as I am waiting for parts for my last conversion step.


Could you please explain pros and cons for both models as I see more assets with the t-dozer

LocalCustomz March 2nd, 2016 10:34 AM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Please post info on this asap, I'm so excited to see how this is done!!

Comicsans March 2nd, 2016 10:40 AM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Does any one know exactly what the pressure pump is doing in the R3000?

I know it is a gravity feed system. Is the pump just keeping the lines filled?

Excited to see if your damper system works out.

jgabby March 2nd, 2016 12:35 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LocalCustomz (Post 3540882)
Please post info on this asap, I'm so excited to see how this is done!!

It act exactly the same way as your lung, instead of air, it is ink.

The funny thing with DX4 dampers is that you literally see them breath each time the pump is on :D


You can see lung surgery here ;)
https://www.t-shirtforums.com/direct-...g/t625809.html

djmobil2 March 3rd, 2016 06:53 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgabby (Post 3540322)
Don't think, get t-dozer, a growing community that helps each other.

I will post all what you want to know on t-dozer facebook page within 2 weeks, as I am waiting for parts for my last conversion step.


Could you please explain pros and cons for both models as I see more assets with the t-dozer

First of all I want to thank you for your promptly reply.
As of the pros and cons I have seen (these are only my opinion) for both models, the Pros on the T-Dozer (which are cons for UFO) are that the kit is made and ship in the USA and that the board shows great built quality.
On the other hand, UFO offers the Avenger kit (probably an Avenger kit clone) with a metal base for up to A3 size, made with aluminum extrusion, spring and rubber lock platen and an industrial stepper motor. The metal base also has adjustable knobs for leveling. While UFO is overseas, they offer a 2 year warranty, they accept Paypal and offer free online resources (including RIP software). One thing I don't like too much about the UFO base is the external box with the buttons.
I couldn't find information regarding the T-Dozer base specs, I assume it is capable of up to A3 size too.
In terms of investment, the T-Dozer Hardware and Platen Kit with Wood Pieces and the electronics kit is around $1,298 + shipping. The UFO portable base with the conversion kit is $850 + $245 on shipping charges for a total of $1,095.
That's all I know fo now, in terms of both solutions..I think that the perfect solution would be a T-Dozer electronics kit with the UFO base and platen, LOL :)
I'm still analyzing both solutions and really want to know how to minimize the issue of the printhead clogging in order to build the whole thing right from the very start. This is one of my main concerns with DTG because, I have a small shop for now, so I'm not going to be using DTG on a daily basis and I want to minimize the maintenance as much as possible.
It's a pity that I don't use Facebook so I'm not going to be able to see your posts on the dampers solution. Do the T-Dozer community is only reachable through Facebook?
Thanks in advance for your experience based thoughts and recommendations, they are greatly appreciated

djmobil2 March 3rd, 2016 06:58 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgabby (Post 3541106)
It act exactly the same way as your lung, instead of air, it is ink.

The funny thing with DX4 dampers is that you literally see them breath each time the pump is on :D


You can see lung surgery here ;)
https://www.t-shirtforums.com/direct-...g/t625809.html

Which ink are you using on these printer and how often are you replacing the dampers?
Thanks again

jgabby March 3rd, 2016 10:52 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djmobil2 (Post 3543778)
Which ink are you using on these printer and how often are you replacing the dampers?
Thanks again

Dupont ink as I had some issue with IA for an unknown reason.
The dampers I think I will change all 3 months.

jgabby March 3rd, 2016 11:20 PM

Re: R3000 P600 Dampers instead of cartridges?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djmobil2 (Post 3543770)
First of all I want to thank you for your promptly reply.
As of the pros and cons I have seen (these are only my opinion) for both models, the Pros on the T-Dozer (which are cons for UFO) are that the kit is made and ship in the USA and that the board shows great built quality.
On the other hand, UFO offers the Avenger kit (probably an Avenger kit clone) with a metal base for up to A3 size, made with aluminum extrusion, spring and rubber lock platen and an industrial stepper motor. The metal base also has adjustable knobs for leveling. While UFO is overseas, they offer a 2 year warranty, they accept Paypal and offer free online resources (including RIP software). One thing I don't like too much about the UFO base is the external box with the buttons.
I couldn't find information regarding the T-Dozer base specs, I assume it is capable of up to A3 size too.
In terms of investment, the T-Dozer Hardware and Platen Kit with Wood Pieces and the electronics kit is around $1,298 + shipping. The UFO portable base with the conversion kit is $850 + $245 on shipping charges for a total of $1,095.
That's all I know fo now, in terms of both solutions..I think that the perfect solution would be a T-Dozer electronics kit with the UFO base and platen, LOL :)
I'm still analyzing both solutions and really want to know how to minimize the issue of the printhead clogging in order to build the whole thing right from the very start. This is one of my main concerns with DTG because, I have a small shop for now, so I'm not going to be using DTG on a daily basis and I want to minimize the maintenance as much as possible.
It's a pity that I don't use Facebook so I'm not going to be able to see your posts on the dampers solution. Do the T-Dozer community is only reachable through Facebook?
Thanks in advance for your experience based thoughts and recommendations, they are greatly appreciated


Support US made :-) this is were all it come from, China are followers with some patent infringement and hacked RIP.

The price gap is not that high considering the better support in my opinion.

Think twice if DTG is for you, it is always better to print all day.
You need a humidity (50%) and temperature (71F) control environment, 7/7 all year.
Don't forget to get spares parts, this add extra cost.

Yep Facebook only for t-dozer, keep us updated of your choice.

I will post on TSF, expect to have my missing part within days.


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