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john2880 February 19th, 2016 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by backtovermont (Post 3515978)
I see that HP is now making Latex printers, could this technology be co-opted into DTG?

No. No compatibile inks and preety high temp that media is heated to.

backtovermont February 19th, 2016 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by john2880 (Post 3518370)
No. No compatibile inks and preety high temp that media is heated to.

Aren't DTG inks dried and fixed with a heat press? Has anyone tried printing with latex on t-shirts? There is a canvas medium available for Latex printers.

john2880 February 19th, 2016 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by backtovermont (Post 3519338)
Aren't DTG inks dried and fixed with a heat press? Has anyone tried printing with latex on t-shirts? There is a canvas medium available for Latex printers.

1) You need to heat up the media before printing on them with latex.
2) Cotton canvas have special coating so you dont print on cotton directly.

backtovermont February 19th, 2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by john2880 (Post 3519450)
1) You need to heat up the media before printing on them with latex.
2) Cotton canvas have special coating so you dont print on cotton directly.

Heated platen?

Smalzstein February 25th, 2016 12:14 PM

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Not quite right. I've seen latex inks for DTG and prints, one company form israel developed those, but got legal issue with HP I've heard and can't make those until HP patent expires.

carybrief February 29th, 2016 08:44 PM

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So once we fill the carts we have to do a "charge" with the adjustment program? then we are ready to do the "paper test" in EKrip? I have tried to find out what steps to take to do the test print but so far I have not found any actually suggested steps anywhere. We filled all the carts except white, and the white carts we filled with cleaning fluid - any suggestions from here?

or - do I need to purchase another set of carts all for cleaning? we have a CISS system from INKJETCARTS.US

thanks JEff

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Originally Posted by german13 (Post 3448170)
1.) I posted pics and description on the builders group of how i make my spit tray, there are many ways but it will give you reference.
2.) I would consult with the folks who sell the bulk ink carts systems for your best options, i would start out with refill carts until your familar with how everything works.
3.) Waste ink, any waste bottle or bag will work, its normally set on the side of the base " lower than the printer" It will eject waste ink slightly up gravity but best is lower than the printer.
4.)Always want to flush the system from OEM inks, you will need a set of flushing carts same as regular carts only cleaning solution. you want to get the adjustment program for the P-600 it has an ink charge feature that can be used for charging flushing/ It also has 3 levels of cleaning that can be used for the same. Ink charges require the carts to show completely full after the first use they will never be all full at once again so at that point the 3 different levels of cleaning can be used. adjustment program link was put on the builders group.
5.) I would email the site direct for any updates on the Platen, we are at the mercy of the manufacturer on those. Best wishes


Adazi May 24th, 2016 08:42 AM

Is there a manual with measurements on how to diy dtg the epson r1900 as I want to give it a go .
If you can provide it would be great help

andrea44 December 25th, 2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Air Graphics (Post 1198302)
Here's a link for those looking for "CLUES" https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1Jx...hWcmtYNWc/edit

you saved me a millon headaches, couldnīt be more grateful

783074 May 16th, 2017 08:42 PM

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Epson based DIY builders/small printer manufacturers, diy wannabe manufacturers :). In my final contribution to this TSF thread, and in an effort to make it the highest viewed, i will be adding some additional resources here in addition to some of the Facebook groups!

If you have any interest in a truly open source motion control platform- a high quality motion control system at ultra low cost this is for you! :***disclaimer***(I do not profit from this in any fashion) This is a major manufacturer module resource sold thru their suppliers....)

This powerful system (control board module) comes preloaded with its own IDE/simple motion control language, has manufacturer tutorials and support . It is produced by a major manufacturer (no need to be an experienced programmer) It includes a ton of control parameters built in- to run stepper motor control system that follow encoders, lots of features and functions at your finger tips, including additional axis control!! This is a high quality system! The best part its under $100 dollars U.S.. Im hoping this will help a lot of the DIY guys on a small budget with a high quality system/ even the small dtg manufacturers can benefit from the quality and cost savings! Please share and pass it along once the resources are posted , hoping everyone and their brother uses it! :)

In the meantime ----If your a diy guy just starting out- download all the "printer conversion resources you can" ie videos/etc. this is the how to on converting the printer itself. There are currently numerous outlets for "printer conversion" usually produced by the diydtg electronic producers sellers/resellers, these will start to disappear without generating profits from electronic sales get access while you can.


I truly believe this will be an awesome "real" open source diy platform with a low cost module- to build on with tremendous growth possibilities into the future! Having no proprietary board design platforms with full component description and tutorials. high quality low cost, that no one can beat! This should open the door for other manufacturers and diy builders alike, effectively benefiting dtg as a whole! Hope to see a tremendous amount of sharing and open source going on! best wishes!! here's the link scroll down for all the manuals etc! have fun! :)

https://www.trinamic.com/products/mo...ils/tmcm-1110/

783074 May 16th, 2017 08:50 PM

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http://www.semiconductorstore.com/pa...stepRocker.asp

https://www.digikey.com/product-deta...010-ND/4399619

TMCM-1110 STEPROCKER - 1-axis controller/driver 2.8A/24V, coolStep?, with encoder interface, S/D in & out

https://www.motioncontrolshop.com/pr...110-steprocker

783074 May 16th, 2017 10:32 PM

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Discover what a quality system and control is all about! lots in the video libraries

https://youtu.be/FvW93yCbqFE

https://youtu.be/JrMbaXhroEs

https://youtu.be/Q0sJlGh9WNY

https://youtu.be/Prw7wNa20Gk

783074 May 17th, 2017 10:42 AM

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Some additional base/parts suppliers!

Plates - OpenBuilds Part Store you can find plates elsewhere cheaply also!

https://www.8020.net/ I always used this aluminum extrusion with the open builds style plates!

https://www.livingstonsystems.com/t-grip-platens/ great supplier of quality platens!

http://www.igus.com/wpck/16474/DryLi...niaturfuehrung robust linear guide supplier

ddelgrande May 18th, 2017 04:30 PM

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Let's not forget to mention OpenDTG.

I was foolish enough to buy a T-Dozer kit (looks like they are out of business; website is down, FaceBook Group Closed) and for lack of support just gave up on trying to convert my Epson P600 to DTG using the T-Dozer kit.

Fortunately, I was able to resurrect the project by buying an AIO Board from OpenDTG and upgrading the substandard T-Dozer parts (Stepper Motor, Rail/Pulley System) from OpenBuilds.

Although the Trinamic products look interesting I don't see a solution for a DTG printer from nuts to bolts. If so please provide a link with the total cost.

Last comment, no matter who you buy from a DIY DTG really requires the support of a community that is going through or has gone through the DTG build process. OpenDTG.com offers that type of support as well as a number of options (less expensive to more so) to convert your printer to DTG.

I highly recommend you take a look at what OpenDTG offers.

783074 May 19th, 2017 07:30 AM

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ddelgrande

Certainly an option along with many other hobby controllers like ufo printer.... The best plug and play that is above the hobby level is the DTG PRINTER | GB DTG TSHIRT PRINTER DIRECT TO GARMENT PRINTER UK although more expensive by about 100 its a complete unit that works well! fyi for those looking for that type! If your a hobbyist programmer different story! but i would reccomend a pic chip (microchip) with no heavy overhead on the chip and one thats fast and doesnt miss encoder counts :) p.s thats what gb dtg printer uses a qaulity pic chip application!

So yes! i agree there are many options and they all come with different levels of quality/support when you truly understand what your looking at from a developer aspect! (key word quality) It is very difficult to make a high quality product professionally engineered on the cheap and provide 24 hour service- that will never exist with cheap quality ardunio style competition! plain and simple! but it comes down to what you want if you start looking into resources including the vids i listed here you will start to get a feel of different qaulity levels and sound noise resonance etc. etc. will be a good first indicator of what you are getting :)

This is why im listing the Trinamic products here its a major manufacturer, is a professional engineered product/s, has all the documentation/help with a simple command language on and on! and wait a live support option also! So it truly is the best ":true open source control module to build on" with a low cost under $100 u.s! that is something a dtgdiy community can get behind and build on into the future with ease and economy! we can leave it at that for starters :) if 3rd party hobby control module was under 100 and the code is free like trinamic that's a true open source, otherwise its just another for profit selling---- hobby boards/parts and memberships (not open source in a nut shell) Trinamic builds would be open source and cheap and most important high quality application! but to each there own on what they want! but again why i posted trinamic in the diy section is because it truly is that!!!!

ddelgrande May 19th, 2017 07:41 AM

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It is very difficult to make a high quality product professionally engineered on the cheap and provide 24 hour service- that will never exist with cheap quality ardunio style competition! plain and simple!
As for making a high-quality product professional engineered DTG product OpenDTG has done that using the Arduino which has been used by millions of DIYers for a wide range of products.

If you talking about T-Dozer then I fully agree.


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