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ArferMo September 14th, 2010 11:27 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Jeff do you think you will be posting any pictures of the drive mechanism and the positioning sensor setup as the last two hard to work out what has been done.

102557 September 14th, 2010 01:25 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArferMo (Post 763217)
Jeff do you think you will be posting any pictures of the drive mechanism and the positioning sensor setup as the last two hard to work out what has been done.


when i open up the machine to lube ill get some pics..

just got it together so i suspect it will be awhile...

with any drive you have to configure it to your setup... so it really depends what your dementions are etc.. what kind of drive you will be running screw? belt? conveyor? so there are alot of variables there.. there are many suppliers that carry online sofware for configuring drives... for example essen runs a system with 3 belts to get his pulley configuration!!!:) i run one but my drive components and parts are a little more complicated this way... lots of numbers to run etc... so for starters whats your drive set up and dementions..;) i could explain mine and even show pics but without a schematic and numbers explaining ratios etc it really does no good (just a pic)...

ive been up late trying to get my rip mods configured working back and forth with ek.. as soon as i get this set ill have more freetime to discuss the printer further!!!

ArferMo September 14th, 2010 02:13 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
My base and platen is constructed from ply wood with the platen running on HD draw runners. The drive is via toothed pulley and toothed drive belts. The dead pulley has a fairly large spring tensioner on it to keep the platen drive belt under steady tension.

Its not specific pulley sizes that I was interested in I can sort that easy enough to get the platen movement to be the same as the paper was. Its more just a couple of pictures of your final drive configuration and the setup of the positioning sensor configuration.

Read an interesting thread on here today about using eco solvent ink in the R1900 with a source of eco tolerant dampers and capping station for the R1900, which could open up additional possibilities for this design as it could print up to 40 inches long I believe. https://www.t-shirtforums.com/diy-dtg...tml#post763025

102557 September 14th, 2010 02:31 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArferMo (Post 763300)
My base and platen is constructed from ply wood with the platen running on HD draw runners. The drive is via toothed pulley and toothed drive belts. The dead pulley has a fairly large spring tensioner on it to keep the platen drive belt under steady tension.

Its not specific pulley sizes that I was interested in I can sort that easy enough to get the platen movement to be the same as the paper was. Its more just a couple of pictures of your final drive configuration and the setup of the positioning sensor configuration.

Read an interesting thread on here today about using eco solvent ink in the R1900 with a source of eco tolerant dampers and capping station for the R1900, which could open up additional possibilities for this design as it could print up to 40 inches long I believe. https://www.t-shirtforums.com/diy-dtg...tml#post763025

gotcha thanks for the additional info aswell..

when i pull the printer apart ill snap some pictures..

as i said im running it pretty hard right now for configuring and testing rip mods for this printer..

regards

spiderx1 September 16th, 2010 07:00 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Well still testing evaluating EK RIP, it is easy to use, the ink controls are awesome allowing a machine that normally needed 2 passes on a white shirt to easily do it in one pass. This is a big plus. The Gap and Feed adjustment are a must for DIY running on the epson board with no modifications to the EPROM.. That is the way to go, Keep it Simple. It has good white control. The color managment was easy as in there is none it runs on a fixed Adobe RGB Profile, when I say fixed I mean you cannot select a different profile, you can however work with adjustment curves a few other items.
The white generation is easy, it has several modes that include a preview of the white, easily selectable and you can view the changes in most cases. Also has highlight control and white added to cmyk colors.
Importing files such as a self made underbase in photoshop is not possible. This program has a lot of bells and whistles, great color ouput, great bed control. Excellent Support, Easy to use and understand.
This is an excellent choice of RIP for the DIY or even someone not happy with there current RIP. Now if MultiRip GP would add the droplet control and bed feed and gap where could have a big fight. MRGP is superior for the advanced user except in those areas. And these are big areas for a lot of people. Most people just think their machine cannot put out that amount of ink and those colors, or get rid of the banding EK does it well. Also a lot of maintenance functions such as timed cleaning, nozzle check, waste ink pad reset, ink charge / prime, channel flush and head clean are all in the RIP. No need for additional
programs. You need to look at this one.

102557 September 16th, 2010 07:35 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderx1 (Post 764715)
Well still testing evaluating EK RIP, it is easy to use, the ink controls are awesome allowing a machine that normally needed 2 passes on a white shirt to easily do it in one pass. This is a big plus. The Gap and Feed adjustment are a must for DIY running on the epson board with no modifications to the EPROM.. That is the way to go, Keep it Simple. It has good white control. The color managment was easy as in there is none it runs on a fixed Adobe RGB Profile, when I say fixed I mean you cannot select a different profile, you can however work with adjustment curves a few other items.
The white generation is easy, it has several modes that include a preview of the white, easily selectable and you can view the changes in most cases. Also has highlight control and white added to cmyk colors.
Importing files such as a self made underbase in photoshop is not possible. This program has a lot of bells and whistles, great color ouput, great bed control. Excellent Support, Easy to use and understand.
This is an excellent choice of RIP for the DIY or even someone not happy with there current RIP. Now if MultiRip GP would add the droplet control and bed feed and gap where could have a big fight. MRGP is superior for the advanced user except in those areas. And these are big areas for a lot of people. Most people just think their machine cannot put out that amount of ink and those colors, or get rid of the banding EK does it well. Also a lot of maintenance functions such as timed cleaning, nozzle check, waste ink pad reset, ink charge / prime, channel flush and head clean are all in the RIP. No need for additional
programs. You need to look at this one.


Amen to that...

i tried stating these facts awhile back in the rip &driver discussion thread... i think it fell on deaf ears..lol:D

but in all seriousness it is power packed with utilities to match... for the cost comparison.. its a know brainer for me!!!!!

i keep saying you can crank out shirts with ek using bed adjusment and printing in 720...it lays plenty o ink... want get complety superb detail trim back the ink and go two passes its unbelievable...

essen48183 September 16th, 2010 08:37 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
"Im wondering if they make reset ink chips when you go to a bulk system equivilant to how much ink is in the bulk system?

or do you have to still reset based on the carts size regardless?"

Jeff, I found a guy working on this was going to forward you all my conversations but I didn't have your email address. Printing anything more than a few shirts is miserable with the tiny ink carts. for now he has ink carts that you can reset before they are due (meaning you can reset them all at the same time so instead of 8 head cleans, just one but at the rate of your fastest going cartridge) and even then it wont flash ink out until the end of a print. I have a set coming to me.

He is working on a decoder that tricks the printer into thinking that full is 110 or 220 ml instead of the tiny one. Just in the figuring out stage... but I believe he'll do it.

His contact info is:
Ron Luk : [email protected]

I was planning on ordering 2 sets and gifting you one, but instead though better of it. I am trying one and making sure they make it easier, and if they do THEN I'll be gifting you a set for all your help and info. for now we'll start with the carts that all 8 reset at the same time back to full. He projects a few months time to a beta version of the decoder.

102557 September 16th, 2010 10:02 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essen48183 (Post 764790)
"Im wondering if they make reset ink chips when you go to a bulk system equivilant to how much ink is in the bulk system?

or do you have to still reset based on the carts size regardless?"

Jeff, I found a guy working on this was going to forward you all my conversations but I didn't have your email address. Printing anything more than a few shirts is miserable with the tiny ink carts. for now he has ink carts that you can reset before they are due (meaning you can reset them all at the same time so instead of 8 head cleans, just one but at the rate of your fastest going cartridge) and even then it wont flash ink out until the end of a print. I have a set coming to me.

He is working on a decoder that tricks the printer into thinking that full is 110 or 220 ml instead of the tiny one. Just in the figuring out stage... but I believe he'll do it.

His contact info is:
Ron Luk : [email protected]

I was planning on ordering 2 sets and gifting you one, but instead though better of it. I am trying one and making sure they make it easier, and if they do THEN I'll be gifting you a set for all your help and info. for now we'll start with the carts that all 8 reset at the same time back to full. He projects a few months time to a beta version of the decoder.

essen sounds promising...im going to talk to dan (dtginks.com) on this in detail aswell... hes the ink king so im sure he will have some info aswell, ive been meaning to do this but been so darn busy!!!!.. i appreciate the update... keep me posted and ill let ya know of any updates on this end... im super excited about this thing..she just doesnt want to stop printing..lol;)

i have been up three nights straight late, remote testing with the rip... making a killer version for the diydtg (tdozer r1900) this will work for you all also...;).. dealing with platen travels and riding the 3inch end of print eject amongst other things its alot to it, back and forth testing this thing ..sending print to files etc... but its getting real close!!!!:) the rip itself was already awesome imho... my brain is fried ..lol and i have a pile of test shirts the size of a mountain..prints both sides inside and out... thank god dan sent ink should be here tommorro!! im down to the last drop:p

hopfully i will have some awesome news on this within a week!!!!;)

moffett8 September 16th, 2010 10:09 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Most of the ciss systems have chips that show that the cartridges are full all the time regardless of the amount of ink.

Philip

Quote:

Originally Posted by german13 (Post 764825)
sounds promising...im going to talk to dan (dtginks.com) on this in detail aswell... hes the ink king so im sure he will have some info aswell.. i appreciate the update...

i have been three up nights straight late remote testing with the rip... making a killer version for the diydtg (tdozer r1900).. dealing with platen travels and riding the 3inch end of print eject amongst other things its alot to it, back and forth testing this thing ..sending print to files etc... but its getting real close!!!!:) the rip itself was already awesome imho...

hopfully i will have some awesome news on this within a week!!!!;)


102557 September 16th, 2010 10:15 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moffett8 (Post 764826)
Most of the ciss systems have chips that show that the cartridges are full all the time regardless of the amount of ink.

Philip

thanks phillip..

i think thats what dan was trying to reley when he posted about arc chips... just havnt had a chance to have a sit down convo with him on the subject..

thats my next goal after the rip...ill ask him for an education on the ink subject (ciss/bulk contraptions) and how the chips work...:)

im on overload at the moment;)

thanks again

YoDan September 17th, 2010 04:23 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
ARC = Auto Reset Chips ;)
They will automatically reset when the power comes on.
These chips do not need to be reset using a Chip Resetter.
Note: Some newer chip types will not reset until the "low ink" warning has been indicated.
Your CISS cartridges have Auto Reset chips on them.
Each time the printer power is turned on the chips will reset themselves to full. If you need to reset the ink levels, simply turn off the printer power, wait 10 seconds, and turn the power back on. This resets the chips.
Note: Some newer chip types will not allow the ink level to reset until the "low ink" warning has been indicated. The "low ink" light normally comes on when the ink level is below 20%.
The actual ink level inside the cartridges is kept full by the CISS unit. The ink level displayed on your screen by the Epson monitoring system is not the true ink level inside the cartridges. It is what the monitoring system and chips are indicating.
Get in the habit of turning your printer off after you finish a large print job or at the end of the day.
When the printer comes on and the chips get reset, you will see a message from Epson that says these are not authentic Epson chips, and it will ask if you wish to continue. Just click on the YES button and start printing.



Did you receive the package?
Dan
"HAPPY PRINTING"

spiderx1 September 17th, 2010 05:51 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
I want a package too. Hey Jeff if all the things Dan said dont work you may have to hit ink button on control panel. Carriage moves to cart change position. Unsnap cart wait a few sec reseat cart then hit ink button again it should go back doing what it was. Holding ink button down will usually generate a mini clean on head.

essen48183 September 17th, 2010 07:52 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
The problem is the 1900 you need to pull the cartridge to refill. that is what I'm told the button does- pretends to pull the cartridge. with the ARC that that is well and good, but the original epson cartrige size is so small, that is doesn't take many shirts to get to the 20% ink light. When you reset one, side with the button, they don't all reset (even on that side).

But I can't speak intelligently on yoDan's CIS for the 1900. I bought his refillable cartridges, though, since if I had to go press a button I might as well top them off. The cartridges in his 2200 CIS worked fine on my old printer (but it didn't have that epson thing where you need to remove the cartridge)

I recently did an order of about 12 navy shirts with gold and black print. It required more white than normal. It took me 3 to 4 times longer to print that small 2 color run. than it would have to burn screens and screen them.... all due to one of the ink lights going out every 2 shirts.

I am curious now, maybe yoDan has the answer to this. If every 5th shirt, I shut down refilled the inks and restarted the printer, would that problem go away with your cartridges.

102557 September 17th, 2010 02:15 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDan (Post 764910)
ARC = Auto Reset Chips ;)
They will automatically reset when the power comes on.
These chips do not need to be reset using a Chip Resetter.
Note: Some newer chip types will not reset until the "low ink" warning has been indicated.
Your CISS cartridges have Auto Reset chips on them.
Each time the printer power is turned on the chips will reset themselves to full. If you need to reset the ink levels, simply turn off the printer power, wait 10 seconds, and turn the power back on. This resets the chips.
Note: Some newer chip types will not allow the ink level to reset until the "low ink" warning has been indicated. The "low ink" light normally comes on when the ink level is below 20%.
The actual ink level inside the cartridges is kept full by the CISS unit. The ink level displayed on your screen by the Epson monitoring system is not the true ink level inside the cartridges. It is what the monitoring system and chips are indicating.
Get in the habit of turning your printer off after you finish a large print job or at the end of the day.
When the printer comes on and the chips get reset, you will see a message from Epson that says these are not authentic Epson chips, and it will ask if you wish to continue. Just click on the YES button and start printing.



Did you receive the package?
Dan
"HAPPY PRINTING"

hey dan, thanks for the info...

i have the carts from you with the two reset buttons.. they work well.. just burn thru alot of ink..lol are these arc chips? because they are not auto resetting unless im doing something stupid! which could be possible:) each set of four carts has the button on them so when the ink light comes on i press the ink button on printer it moves to position then i press the button on the carts and press ink button again! this clears it but it goes into a mini cleaning or charging then right back to printing..

i missed the package today was at work it required a signature! so im having my neighbor bring it home with him.. hes a ups driver, so i should have it 9ish tonite.. thanks again;)

102557 September 17th, 2010 02:19 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderx1 (Post 764958)
I want a package too. Hey Jeff if all the things Dan said dont work you may have to hit ink button on control panel. Carriage moves to cart change position. Unsnap cart wait a few sec reseat cart then hit ink button again it should go back doing what it was. Holding ink button down will usually generate a mini clean on head.

thanks for the ifo... and by the way you are the rip master as far as navigating and the cool short cuts etc... dont worry i will be bothering you again...:)


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