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102557 February 9th, 2011 10:30 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonknight (Post 848507)
2 push buttons on left and right side, but rarely use it because to reset the ink level in the chip I just need to push the ink button the cartridge park on ink replacement position than push the button again than the printer start printing again with full gauge of ink level. Do Not push the reset button in the middle of printing t-shirt or you will ruin the t-shirt because it will initiate an eject sequence (paper eject)

can you show a pic of the reset buttons want to make sure there the same... ***also are you using a r1900***... its different than other printers in this respect..:)

Paulis February 10th, 2011 11:09 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Does anybody have an opinion on these cartridges? They say:
"LATEST CHIP SET will reset to 100% full when the ink meter drops below 10%. This prevents unnecessary charging, save your even more money on the ink and prolongs the printers' life."

Could it be true?

102557 February 10th, 2011 11:29 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulis (Post 849389)
Does anybody have an opinion on these cartridges? They say:
"LATEST CHIP SET will reset to 100% full when the ink meter drops below 10%. This prevents unnecessary charging, save your even more money on the ink and prolongs the printers' life."

Could it be true?

We are waiting to hear back from some people on this question.. there are similar refill carts aswell with the auto reset chips..that say they dont need to be removed!!! this is yet to be confirmed by a 1900 user...

we do have a solution for the ink reset that resets all the channels at once limiting the headcleans/ink charge to one per empty cart cycle.. so basicly one headclean/charge compared to eight...


heres what i have found with the dual push button type chips.. it does not give a low ink warning it goes right to out of ink, then you must reset by pressing the buttons..at that point it will do a ink charge "wasting ink" this type chip does not reset all channels at once so you may get thru two shirts and have to reset again with another channel thats all adds up to alot of wasted ink..

so we are in the process of testing and checking with others if the non button chip will reset all channels at once and only do one head clean..

otherwise we will be using the r1900 ink decoder board that doesnt require any chips and will reset with the ink button on the printer all eight channels at one time only doing one headclean per empty cart cycle :hope all that made sense: I have seen the decoder in action and it works verywell however it is a more expensive option..but will pay for itself in a very short time saving in waste ink cost due to uneeded inkcharges/headcleans..

but first we need to test the arc chips to see if this will do the same before we move to the more expensive decoder option.. so to answer your question no we dont know yet....

we do have some other options we will be testing aswell r1800 firmware for the 1900 that doesnt have the same ink charge firm ware the 1900 has it will use arc chips and reset automatically with no issue..we just do not know what the capabilitys of doing this involves yet either.. but most likely will be the arc chips or the decoder... we like the r1900 print speed;)

P.S you will need bigger ink supply lines, other than the stock ones that come with the cheap bulk systems to prevent ink starvation and to keep from the printhead over heating and slowing down.

Paulis February 11th, 2011 06:15 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
These cartridges are not too expensive - I'll try to use these chips with normal dampers. Only it will take a little while, because the USA is far away from my location...

locky February 12th, 2011 01:44 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
I've just started this project today after collecting all the parts over the last couple of months.

Just a quick question (probably a stupid one) about extending the wires from the apg motor and sensors. Can I use network cable to extend these wires to the asf board as it's 8 wires and would be neat. Please let me know if this kind of wire is not suitable.

Cheers,
Locky

spiderx1 February 12th, 2011 06:37 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
The head is moving very slow due to recovery from previous error.
The dual yellow lights looks to be caused by having the pe switch depressed at start up.
Try start up without platen so pe is not depressed after solid green is achieved then load platen.

sapdiffusion February 12th, 2011 07:31 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
hello all peoples i have made mi dtg printer with epson r1900 in france.if you want you can see vedeo on youtube but i have not a solution for ink system - but solution for motor paper if you want i can send photo system

102557 February 12th, 2011 07:53 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sapdiffusion (Post 850312)
hello all peoples i have made mi dtg printer with epson r1900 in france.if you want you can see vedeo on youtube but i have not a solution for ink system - but solution for motor paper if you want i can send photo system

VERY NICE...:) post up the photos!!!

auto load? looks like a commercial printer

bjdbjd February 12th, 2011 10:12 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Does anybody have an opinion on these cartridges : PREFILLED Spongeless with Inkset for Epson R1900 - eBay (item 200574209176 end time Mar-09-11 19:49:52 PST) ? They say:

SPONGELESS DESIGN: with no sponge to break down and degrade over time, these cartridges will provide many years of trouble free reliable operation.
AUTO RESET CHIPS: With the included auto reset chips, you do not need an external resetter to reset ink levels. When the ink level indicator reaches empty it will automatically reset itself to 90% full. This will allow you to save ink and eliminates the requirement of resetting the cartridge.
CONVENIENT REFILL: These cartridges can be refilled while in the printer or they can be removed and refilled outside if you find it more convenient. Just remove the silicone rubber plug, put more ink inside till full, replace the silicone rubber plug and continue printing!
REGULATED FLOW & SUPERIOR DESIGN: With the intricate damper system, proper flow is maintained whether the cartridge is full or near empty. Many other refillable cartridges don't provide consistent flow from full to empty. Finally, this design achieves the performance of the OEM cartridge. It also features a self sealing outlet port like the original.
VACUUM PREFILLED: Using a process similar to OEM cartridges, these cartridges are prefilled by Precision Colors inside a vacuum chamber. This step is critical to ensuring that the cartridges perform properly upon insertion with a minimum of head cleanings and priming cycles. It is not uncommon to waste 20 to 30% of the ink during the priming cycle if the cartridges are initially filled without a vacuum chamber. Simply injecting ink initially into the empty cartridge forces the printhead to ingest air into the printhead nozzles thus causing banding and streaking. You will then need multiple head cleanings to purge the air out and use up the ink doing so. 99.99% of owners do not have access to a vacuum chamber so that is why we provide this extra step.

force February 12th, 2011 10:50 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
I have 2 question
Is it possible to print 13X19 (close to that) and not 13x16.
In ek print head alignment what does it mean by bands they all look the sames.

thanks for your help

102557 February 12th, 2011 11:02 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by force (Post 850405)
I have 2 question
Is it possible to print 13X19 (close to that) and not 13x16.
In ek print head alignment what does it mean by bands they all look the sames.

thanks for your help

you can print a 13x19.. you need to select 13x19 platen size or set the platen up this way in the software files.. chris at ek can explain this...

with the 22 inch slides you will only be able to do 1 print at a time to to the eject distances involved when using a belt drive.. if you are using a friction drive it is irelavent if its set up correctly..

if you use 24 slides with a belt drive you can print 13x19 in succession ie load many jobs to the rip and just keep printing because you have enough room with the eject distances involved with this setup and a belt drive.. again if its friction its irelavent..

it all depends on your dtg set up:)

102557 February 12th, 2011 11:17 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjdbjd (Post 850395)
Does anybody have an opinion on these cartridges : PREFILLED Spongeless with Inkset for Epson R1900 - eBay (item 200574209176 end time Mar-09-11 19:49:52 PST) ? They say:

SPONGELESS DESIGN: with no sponge to break down and degrade over time, these cartridges will provide many years of trouble free reliable operation.
AUTO RESET CHIPS: With the included auto reset chips, you do not need an external resetter to reset ink levels. When the ink level indicator reaches empty it will automatically reset itself to 90% full. This will allow you to save ink and eliminates the requirement of resetting the cartridge.
CONVENIENT REFILL: These cartridges can be refilled while in the printer or they can be removed and refilled outside if you find it more convenient. Just remove the silicone rubber plug, put more ink inside till full, replace the silicone rubber plug and continue printing!
REGULATED FLOW & SUPERIOR DESIGN: With the intricate damper system, proper flow is maintained whether the cartridge is full or near empty. Many other refillable cartridges don't provide consistent flow from full to empty. Finally, this design achieves the performance of the OEM cartridge. It also features a self sealing outlet port like the original.
VACUUM PREFILLED: Using a process similar to OEM cartridges, these cartridges are prefilled by Precision Colors inside a vacuum chamber. This step is critical to ensuring that the cartridges perform properly upon insertion with a minimum of head cleanings and priming cycles. It is not uncommon to waste 20 to 30% of the ink during the priming cycle if the cartridges are initially filled without a vacuum chamber. Simply injecting ink initially into the empty cartridge forces the printhead to ingest air into the printhead nozzles thus causing banding and streaking. You will then need multiple head cleanings to purge the air out and use up the ink doing so. 99.99% of owners do not have access to a vacuum chamber so that is why we provide this extra step.


I have been doing some research on the different arc chips for bulk systems there are three types of chips.. i have the answer for two but still waiting on replys for the third...


1. chip type one has two push buttons to reset, i have first hand knowledge of these. heres how they work.. ink out light comes on this chips give no low ink warning, once the ink out like comes on press the two buttons it instantly resets but does a head clean right after.. this is the problem with this type chip it doesnt reset all 8 at one time so a few minutes later you may have another ink light come on and you will have to repeat the reset as explained.. it results in a tremendous amount of waste ink.. i dont recommend them..

2. chip type two has two slide switches.. ink warning comes on and you reset the slide switches process requires hiting the ink button on the printer about 3 times to reset as its procedure.. the process is a nuisance but it resets all at one time resulting in minimal waste ink because it does 1 head clean vs 8

3. chip type three.. no buttons.. its supposed to auto reset at ink light warning with no waste ink.. however i have not got any feed back on these..

4. chip decoder board.. requires adding an electronic board which controls the ink like chip two.. requires no chips on the carts, simply resets by hitting the ink button 1 headclean vs 8 same as #2 style chips.. this is the most expensive option at about 300 for the board..

looks like the auto reset chips with no buttons is the best option if they work as described.. we need to get user feedback on this however..:)

force February 12th, 2011 04:39 PM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
I figure out how to change it thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by german13 (Post 850413)
you can print a 13x19.. you need to select 13x19 platen size or set the platen up this way in the software files.. chris at ek can explain this...

with the 22 inch slides you will only be able to do 1 print at a time to to the eject distances involved when using a belt drive.. if you are using a friction drive it is irelavent if its set up correctly..

if you use 24 slides with a belt drive you can print 13x19 in succession ie load many jobs to the rip and just keep printing because you have enough room with the eject distances involved with this setup and a belt drive.. again if its friction its irelavent..

it all depends on your dtg set up:)


bushkill February 13th, 2011 03:29 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Hi all, what you think about this product?
efillink.info - Quality bulk ink refill kit

andygreen February 13th, 2011 08:38 AM

Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"
 
Hey Jeff,

First of all congrats on the build, you have convinced me after stumbling across this thread this morning....I’ve just read it all. How good is this....i was seriously looking into finance on a Brother DTG and it was working out about 50 per week for 5 years...what a noose over the entrepreneur neck, i agree with you whole heartedly and think that this is definitely the way forward....I’m going to be gathering my bits and pieces over the next month or so to undertake a build...do you think its worth waiting on for the plans for the steel frame or just crack on with version 2? I will be taking loads of photos / vid's too and will hopefully become a poster in this community! Hi from the UK to all, congrats to those who have built and good luck to those who are going to undertake, hopefully we can be help to each other.

anyone know of a reputable source for the R1900 service manual? some of the sites have taken to me a user guide and some look a bit dodgy, any info on this will be most appreciated....

Cant wait to get crackin!


Cant wait to get crackin!


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