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Old April 28th, 2010 Apr 28, 2010 11:19:49 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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I understand many have used the Exact ink with success...

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Old April 29th, 2010 Apr 29, 2010 3:36:42 AM -   #32 (permalink)
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What kind of RIP are you using now?
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Old April 29th, 2010 Apr 29, 2010 5:46:02 AM -   #33 (permalink)
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German,
What kind of RIP are you using now?
no rip yet, i've been told most are profiled to dupont inks however.

i,m just an apprentice when it comes to rip, I've spent many hours reading and asking questions on the subject.

I have concluded that MULTI-RIP is the best product at this point!!! the curators have answered a million of my questions here in the forums and i have not purchased the product. so i confidently say that there customer service is exceptional. I,m sure there technical support surpasses even that.

I read a post in the commercial side of these forums that multi-rip out performed one of ana jets own rips or rip on there own machine? you can search this for yourself...several people on the post attested to that aswell..

just for arguments sake i'm not denouncing ana-jet the machine, i hear they are very nice units i'm speaking of rip itself and "quoting" what i read..

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Old April 29th, 2010 Apr 29, 2010 10:05:37 AM -   #34 (permalink)
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I tried the
Epson Driver
Gutenprint
Multirip demo
Multirip is simply the best product. Looks like Its made for DIY DTG.
It has everything you need in order to print shirts
I just love it.....
But its price is very high.

Is it time to learn the Postscript language?
We'll see....
Our main prob is the amount of ink and the ink channels.
I dont care if i have to rasterize the image on photoshop or any other program if i am able to alter these parameters through a command line interface..... i imagine a command like:/Print test.tiff /intencity 100 /white. I believe this what rips do...convert the unfriendly command line to a nice graphic environment.
I dont know I just wondering ...
 
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I tried the
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Gutenprint
Multirip demo
Multirip is simply the best product. Looks like Its made for DIY DTG.
It has everything you need in order to print shirts
I just love it.....
But its price is very high.

Is it time to learn the Postscript language?
We'll see....
Our main prob is the amount of ink and the ink channels.
I dont care if i have to rasterize the image on photoshop or any other program if i am able to alter these parameters through a command line interface..... i imagine a command like:/Print test.tiff /intencity 100 /white. I believe this what rips do...convert the unfriendly command line to a nice graphic environment.
I dont know I just wondering ...
some one told me that the r1900 is not post script it is gdi something or another....have no idea what this entails

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German is correct... The Epson Workforce 1100 and R1900 are both GDI printers and are not capable of translating Post Script commands. Epson has their own proprietary language ESC/P2 for sending commands to the printer. While it might be useful for RIPs to use postscript to manipulate CYMK values, the Epson printers know nothing about it. Everything is converted to RGB before going to the Epson printer. As far as I know, GDI has problems working with CYMK and can only do so with TIFF images.

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German is correct... The Epson Workforce 1100 and R1900 are both GDI printers and are not capable of translating Post Script commands. Epson has their own proprietary language ESC/P2 for sending commands to the printer. While it might be useful for RIPs to use postscript to manipulate CYMK values, the Epson printers know nothing about it. Everything is converted to RGB before going to the Epson printer. As far as I know, GDI has problems working with CYMK and can only do so with TIFF images.

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is the one who originally explained it to me...thanks bob, thats all to your credit so if im correct its due to your knowledge not mine.

even though he explained it to me its sounds like a nasa experiment for someone with no knowledge of extensive programming
 
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LOL
This is why im saving money for the multirip....
 
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well im sure bob will come up with something.... bob looks like he is pretty well versed in the programming dept...
he will probably be the only one that isnt broke from rip...

i saw i guy pan handling at the stop light today...looked to pretty well off,..maybe i choose the wrong thing to build to make money...cans are pretty cheap.

in the mean time ill start saving as well..

p.s was watching some tutorials on the rip pro sofware for dtg at wwwswfdtg.com
i noticed one of those words you used bob TIFF. the on screen tutorial has an app in the rip called rippro tiff....anyway bob guess that confirms your theory. however its a foreign language to me....

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German is correct... The Epson Workforce 1100 and R1900 are both GDI printers and are not capable of translating Post Script commands. Epson has their own proprietary language ESC/P2 for sending commands to the printer. While it might be useful for RIPs to use postscript to manipulate CYMK values, the Epson printers know nothing about it. Everything is converted to RGB before going to the Epson printer. As far as I know, GDI has problems working with CYMK and can only do so with TIFF images.

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Way to go Bob, so why don't you learn the ESC/P2 language + Visual C++ and start making your own RIP program and you will save hundreds of dollars, you will be amaze of what RIP program (your program) can do to Epson printer, just my opinion
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Old May 1st, 2010 May 1, 2010 5:56:22 PM -   #41 (permalink)
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Working it...

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Both options come with the RIP, so you can choose what option works best for your shop. The only thing I will tell you is Photoshop does a much better job of processing colors compared to CorelDraw. Now Corel has just released CorelDraw X5 and they were to fix a lot of their problems. I have not fully tested Corel X5 so I will reserve my comments. However, you will probably want to get Photoshop Elements at a minimum if you plan on printing photographs. In reality, any dtg business should have both Photoshop and Corel so you can handle the file in the original format that it was created in.

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could you or fred confirm that multi rip will bypass the sensor issues on the r1900 r1800 pe, asf with the paper feed tray and paper feed motor disabled or removed?
 
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downloaded multi rip trial...have my r1900 set up as dual cmyk in that order from left to right cmyk-cmyk..

when i print using the multi-rip the colors are not even close? im wondering if the ink configuration in the printer itself should be different? or if there is a setting im missing somewhere?

this is very confusing to say the least...all insight would be appreciated....
 
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downloaded multi rip trial...have my r1900 set up as dual cmyk in that order from left to right cmyk-cmyk..

when i print using the multi-rip the colors are not even close? im wondering if the ink configuration in the printer itself should be different? or if there is a setting im missing somewhere?

this is very confusing to say the least...all insight would be appreciated....
Jeff, I believe it should only be using the first four channels and there is supposed to be a second pass for the second CYMK... Not sure but I think that is the case... Also do you have to apply the color profile? Not sure....

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Jeff, I believe it should only be using the first four channels and there is supposed to be a second pass for the second CYMK... Not sure but I think that is the case... Also do you have to apply the color profile? Not sure....

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so far its been a nightmare..lol prolly something stupid i have not done right.

i changed the configuration manually to cmyk, the default could be ymck dual..

i have been on the tutorials but no clear results yet..when i first started couldnt get a print..i had to manually set my ports then i got a print. i did get a decent print when i switched them but still not perfect..and printing from corel is way off a yellow guitar is green?

marks on his honeymoon so ill wait for him to get some professional advice.

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