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[DIY DTG] epson 1100-1900 platen designs

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Old April 7th, 2010 Apr 7, 2010 6:36:16 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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i posted this in the moving forward thread. thought it might be better to start a separate thread so its easy to find and others can post there designs here! this is just a mixed design i put together based off existing commercial machines. trying to make it simple as possible. the shirtbox-drawer is in the rough yet still have to attach my auto height adjusting spring system, drill my air holes like the (rainbow printer) and primer-paint. i fabbed this out of 18ga shheet metal tried 22ga first but it was a little thin for my liking and warped slightly when welding. the 18ga works awesome. this can be fabbed from sheet metel, plastic or wood with some creativity. i really like the self adjusting height-it will automatically adjust to your material thickness.

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Very nice, Cool design and very clear pictures so everyone can make it by only see all your pictures.
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Yes, very nice...

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thanks guys appreciate it its been a labor of love, i lot more detailed than i originally anticipated i have decided to make one minor change to the above design, i am going to use 1/2 birch for the part the shirt actually lays on. im doing this in the event i make a kit for the whole design it will allow people to easily interchange it in case they want to do golf balls n such. you just copy platen size drill the appropriate holes with hole saw for placing your item and add the correct size spacer to sink the spring loader (makes different platens affordable or diy
 
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Very nice! I've been reading a lot of threads here in the diy dtg section - but this is my first time actually posting anything here . I like your design, but what would you recommend to somebody who doesn't have a shop or capabilities to weld and stuff?
 
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(option 1)you have a couple options your local weld shop for sheet metal the actual cost of material is pretty cheap, however you will have a labor charge and a cut charge thats the killer for instance another shop here in my town charges 3 dollars a cut that can add up fast. its still well worth it!
(option 2) you can build it out of plastic i have a thread here( build your base and platen from plastic) with info and tutorials on how to weld, the welder is cheap 35 bucks. however the material pvc sheet is a little more costly than sheet metal but still well worth the cost. you can use regular wood cutting tools to cut this as well table saw, skill saw, drills etc
(option3) you can build it out of wood- with normal tools as well however i would still reccomend a metal or plastic.. top frame or holder it could be steel, stainless steel or aluminum..the only issue with wood is your tolerances if they are tight woods strength is best at 3/8 and up..for instace i have a 14" opening for my drawer to travel under the printer-my print area is 13" that only gives me an 1/2 inch on each side for the frame and everything to work...so if you were to use 1/2 wood you have no room to incorporate the frame & such. they way i have above. you could go with thinner wood but i just dont think it wood hold up long with day to day use. if you go with plastic you can use thinner material and retain superior strenth it would work well requires only basic tools .
(option4) all else fails and or you dont have carpentry skills you can buy it from me
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Didn't you say you would sell these? That's an option you did not mention.

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option 4, however i have'nt researched the legal issues for the platen designs. my main gig on this project will be the micro controllers thats really the key issue. i might sell the platens-base out the back door however. the key word is (sell) theres away around everything say with a donation you receive one free
 
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i have a real good feeling this is going to irritate some of the big commercial guys. i can get away with the micro controller easy no probs there. however if i couple the micro with my base platens well you do the math if you can get something equal to 12,000 unit for 10,800 less.thats what scares me i dont have there kinda $ to litigate with em
 
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I see... Production does sound like a drag.

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my goal is to print shirts and if the micro controller business is there ill do that aswell i dont have to produce those
 
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Very nice! I've been reading a lot of threads here in the diy dtg section - but this is my first time actually posting anything here . I like your design, but what would you recommend to somebody who doesn't have a shop or capabilities to weld and stuff?
i just checked some measurements i believe you can go with wood using 1/4 inch thickness along the 17" side 1/2 for the rest. just have the top frame made or make it exactly like the rainbow printer just a snap in top frame, my top version is experimental yet, and i might just do it exactly as the rainbow printer box before its complete. you have the room and strength with that method. i might just go ahead and fab it from wood because thats what im guessing most people will do here....+ alot faster.
i have most of the material in wood so i will start fabricating one up with the wood method, ill post some pics when its done. then i can give you specifics on the measurements

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Well, after reading your plastic welding thread - I must admit, I'm intrigued. I like the $35 price for the welder and I could probably rent an air compressor for cheap. I'm not too familiar with PVC prices, but they couldn't be too bad... right? Anyhow, the only thing that's really holding me back from building a diy dtg is the lack of a solid RIP program for specifying exactly which channels to print from (seems like nobody has a single definite answer). Also, correct me if I'm wrong - but it seems like many RIP programs tend to make the white layer very light - so it doesn't really stand out enough on a black shirt.
 
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i have really high expectations for the 1900 using marks (da guide) rip program. i am told that this will work wonderfully, i believe you can use 4 channels of white. if you cant get enough down with that i would be shocked. daguide will better serve you in that area thats his specialty. try pm him with your questions
 
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Anyhow, the only thing that's really holding me back from building a diy dtg is the lack of a solid RIP program for specifying exactly which channels to print from (seems like nobody has a single definite answer). Also, correct me if I'm wrong - but it seems like many RIP programs tend to make the white layer very light - so it doesn't really stand out enough on a black shirt.
I think you are going to more than happy with the amount of white ink that can be put down with an 8-channel printer. If you want, we (MultiRIP) can create a white swimming pool of ink (AKA a waste of money) if you really want it on a 1800 / 1900 printer because of the drop sizes available and the current viscocity of white ink. Most users pull the white ink volume slider down into the 80% range to prevent it from flooding. This is also based on having a good nozzle check of course.

The one thing I will tell anyone that is interested in creating their own DIY DTG printer and needs is a RIP is to "try it before you buy it." You can download the MultiRIP GP from this link - Download a free trial version of MultiRIP RIP Softwares. You can learn how to install and use the MultiRIP GP software through all the videos and PDFs on this page - MultiRIP GP Direct-to-Garment Printing Software for dtg Printers - Epson Digital Printers. You will see you have several options to control the amount of white ink that is deposited. The RIP will put a watermark across the print until you validate the software. But you will be able to see enough of the design to determine if the software works for you. I recommend to most new dtg owners to use the Print From application as it allows you to preview the white underbase layer and allow you to make adjustments.

I think a quick tour of the dtg forums will show the majority of issues with dtg printers is not the RIP, but the hardware. So if you can take care of building a solid DIY DTG printer, then you should not have an issue with the RIP.

Good luck with your build!

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