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Old April 2nd, 2010 Apr 2, 2010 12:09:02 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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Well I have a new 1400 and the broke 1900 here now.
Cant try the 1900 till the carts show up next week I hope.
Still haven't found a 1900 pdf service manual unless you pay to join a shareware site.
Are the $14 service manuals you pay to d/l the right manuals?
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Old April 2nd, 2010 Apr 2, 2010 1:47:44 PM -   #17 (permalink)
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www.2manuals.com has them, in there search bar just type epson r1900 service manual, there 14.99 sometimes you get manual a and sometimes manual b either will work for what your doing
 
Old April 2nd, 2010 Apr 2, 2010 6:07:39 PM -   #18 (permalink)
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I honestly have found them to be of little use....

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here is my design for the shirt box-drawer for the 1100-1900. i was going to wait to post up when i have every thing together, but i thought it may be beneficial to someone to get a jump on there design if they so chose to take a liking to this, took me abit to cad up and about 4 hours on and off to build. i first fabricated it out of 22ga sheetmetal but it was a little thin for my liking and had some slight warp when welded . i jumped up to 18ga and it worked beautiful the box is still in the rough have to drill holes along the side like the one from the rainbow printer i see why they have holes now when you load the shirt there is no place for the air to escape causing the shirt to blow up slightly, this is due to the very tight tolerances and the air has to go some where. next i will drill my air holes this will lighten it up even more than it is, and also attach my spring system which is not attached yet. a little sand and some paint. even with the spring set up non attached it works beautifully as shown in the pics,it is self leveling-adjusting every time to your material thickness your printing on, it has 6inches travel allowing plenty of room to work hope it helps someone. this would work with sheetmetal, plastic or wood with some creativity
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I like it... It must have taken some time to build...

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Old April 6th, 2010 Apr 6, 2010 7:08:14 PM -   #21 (permalink)
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thanks bob.
well i just basically combined a few different designs from other units to fit the needs of the 1100-1900. trying to make it as simple to operate as possible and light weight, cad makes the chore a lot more forgiving. you still get a couple opps in the process but thus far im happy with the results. the drawer is going to be on hd slides underneath and direct driven with a belt along side of drawer similar to how the print head moves. the pf axel stays in its original location just cutting down the axle to about 3" and adding a drive& pulley. also thanks for the dtg ink and cart recommendation i ordered them last night. trying to get this thing built as fast as i can, i procrastinated due to dealing with the micro controller (electronic engineer), it might be ready before i am but im gonna focus on the project pretty hard the next week or so.
 
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does anyone know if its possible to run the pretreat through the ink chanel on the 1900 using marks rip? say 1 pretreat 3 white or a combination 2&2?
 
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That would not work... The pretreatment would clog up your heads in no time... The heads are meant for pigment ink only.

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ok thanks bob, just a thought
 
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No worries... This question comes up from time to time. I know some people use a Wagner power sprayer to apply their pretreatment. You could build a booth to enclose a Wagner power sprayer...

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Well my $130 r1900 is working. The $18 carts showed up so I powered it up and sure enough it had a paper jam.

After about 4 hours of tearing it apart I found the culprit.

Dug out a piece of heavy paper about 2 inches long, 1/2 inch wide.

Works great. Great price.
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Dennis,

Way to go... Now you get to start tearing it down.... This is where the excitement begins!

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does anyone know if its possible to run the pretreat through the ink chanel on the 1900 using marks rip? say 1 pretreat 3 white or a combination 2&2?
Yeah, not a good idea. The Dupont pretreatment is basically a form or type of glue. That will lock up the print head, the dampers and ink lines very fast. There is a different pretreat fluid being sold in Europe that can be jetted from a printer, but this is a different pretreatment and I have no clue how good it works and how fast it could clog up. Even if it works, only jetting 1 channel of pretreat fluid will probably require you to do multiple passes to get enough pretreat on the shirt. That would just slow the whole process of dark garment printing down even more. The one in Europe requires you to have a completely different printer setup for just pretreating. I think most dtg users that I have spoken to about this thinks the concept is unique, but not that practical in a real shop.

Just focus on getting the hardware working for you and understand how to repair it (because it will require some repairs over time). Then I would suggest starting off printing just cmyk (dual CMYK or CMYK with cleaning solution) so you can get use to the printer and ink. Then work your way into printing on dark garments. The minute you put white ink into a printer, your challenges grow exponentially.

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German and I have both put pics of our designs in another thread... His is a wonderful drawer design... Mine is a conveyor design. Now you have no excuse not to build your own!

https://www.t-shirtforums.com/diy-dt...tml#post672460
 






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