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What is the Best DTG Printer?

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Old May 12th, 2007 May 12, 2007 9:35:34 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb What is the Best DTG Printer?

Hi, I am planning to set up shop and I was wondering which DTG Printer is the best or which offers better value-for-money?

Also, what are the pros and cons of a DTG Printer compared to a screen printing one?

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Old May 12th, 2007 May 12, 2007 12:31:21 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

That's a loaded question. Need more information on what type of shirts (darks, lights only) you want to do, your budget restrictions, how technical the person running the machine is going to be, how much space do you have, are you going to want to take it to events, where are you located (some machines are not available world-wide) and several other questions.

If you search this forum, you will hear the good, the bad and the ugly for just about every machine out there. You might also want to check out Digital and Screen Printing University On-Line Forums for Digital Garment Printing, Screen Printing, Embroidery, and more.. Whatever you do, don't underestimate the support side of the machine. This is a new technology and growing pains are to be expected.

Pros of DTG
- Can print full digital pictures that can't be done by screen printing.
- Takes up less space
- Made for short-runs and one-offs
- No need to burn screens, no real setup time and no reclaiming screens with chemicals

Cons of DTG
- Can't do high denisty or 3D printing
- It is hard to do a print on a dark color shirt and get the white ink to stay on the shirt after a couple of washings. (Look at the posts that talk about pretreatment and white ink for more details)
- Not made for doing production runs or large orders as it is too time consuming

This should be a good start for you and your research. Hopefully others will reply once you tell us more about what types of things you want to do. Best wishes.

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Old May 12th, 2007 May 12, 2007 11:11:56 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

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Pros of DTG
- Can print full digital pictures that can't be done by screen printing.
I'm yet to see any type of printing a DTG can do that can't be done with screenprinting (except possibly things like golfball printing - I'm not sure how well those could be screenprinted). It's just a question of practicality, at which DTG can easily prove superior. But it can be done either way if you can invest enough into it (so the question is if not can/can't).



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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

What's your price range?
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

Hahaha..Goes to show how much I know

My price range is between $15,000 - $18,000, and since I will be the one to operate it (I am a novice in shirt printing) it would have to be something that is easy to use. Also, it would have to print on both light and dark materials.

Any DTG Printer which fits the above description?
 
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

There are two that I can think of, T-Jet 3 and DTG Kios. The definition of easy varies from people to people. You'll need a lot of practice and some computer knowledge to tweak the settings and do maintenance on the printer.
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

dmt,

I hope you know what you are asking for with that list

You can find most of the current DTG type printers in the catagory of pricing you have set. As far as light and dark shirts it really depends on what you consider easy to operate. There are more than a few that would tell you that dark shirt printing is not a process you pick up in an afternoon. There are so many variables I would advise you to request your dealer or whoever you are dealing with do a proper and thorough demo so you can see every step of the process in person. A great video of every step would be great if you can find one.

There are some differences between all the players so do your homework and see how much detailed info is available for you and what media you can find about the different units and do the numbers yourself. All the machines have positives and negatives. There is more than one way to get into the DTG type printing end of the business.

There will be quite a few things arrive to market between now and SGIA so if you have the time to wait and see it might be worth it to you in the end.

The most important question at this point is "What do you plan on for your business model for using this printer?"

Enjoy the process and feel free to contact me if you need more details on anything.

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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

Also, make sure the company you are buying from offers free training with the purchase. You will need to learn the whole process, preferably on the printer you will be buying.

Check their service as well, look on the forum or ask what the companies technical backup is like. Don't rush into a purchase.
 
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

I've been asking around, and everyone (mostly anyway) has been telling me to get a T-Jet 3..I checked it out myself and it seems pretty nice.

What are your comments on this machine?
 
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

its a newer machine so it might have some initial quarks but I used one and it worked very well, layed down a ton of white(four channels) and was very fast compared to my t-jet2, you can also get the t-jet3 factory which is one machine with just white and one with all color.
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

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I'm yet to see any type of printing a DTG can do that can't be done with screenprinting (except possibly things like golfball printing - I'm not sure how well those could be screenprinted). It's just a question of practicality, at which DTG can easily prove superior. But it can be done either way if you can invest enough into it (so the question is if not can/can't).
Lewis, can you find a screen that can kind of bend or fold over the ball and maybe use some type of flexible squeegee?
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

Not that it is all that relevant to golf balls or it has a large market, but have you seen a Direct-to-Football printer before? Check out this link - Screenprinting and Digital Garment Printing University. It comes from the same manufacturer of the Flexi-Jet.
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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

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Lewis, can you find a screen that can kind of bend or fold over the ball and maybe use some type of flexible squeegee?
Skateboard and hat printing is done along those lines, and there must have been some way of doing it before DTG (though that might have been something like pad printing or dye sublimation), but I certainly don't plan on finding out Sounds like a loooot of effort. I doubt I'll ever need to do golf balls, but if I do I'll go straight to my local DTG printer. Even a diehard like me just wouldn't try screenprinting some things



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Default Re: What is the Best DTG Printer?

I'm really new at this and I just realized that I have to learn so much stuff hahaha..

Anyway, how come no one talks about the new T-Jet Blazer that much compared to T-Jet 3? I've checked it out and it looks okay too.
 
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I think no one really talks about the blazer because most of these people are just wanting to start out and want to get the cheapest way into the industry. But yeah I saw the blazer run and it is pretty cool.
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