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Old March 12th, 2012 Mar 12, 2012 2:32:09 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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Old September 18th, 2012 Sep 18, 2012 12:27:28 AM -   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

Hello everyone.
Can anyone tell me whether DTG and Dupont are one and the same brand?
We use DTG ink for DTG M2 and DTG Viper. We use cleaning solution and pre-treatment (DTG as well). But we have to go through certification (cleaning solution and pre-treatment) in order we can buy and go through our Belarusian customs without any problems (Customs doesn't let through cleaning solution and pre-treatment withou certification). We have cerification for DuPont but we don't have certification for DTG.
Are there any document that can certify that DuPont = DTG? Please tell me where I can find them (are there any links on web-sites?)
Please help me!!!
 
Old September 18th, 2012 Sep 18, 2012 6:32:57 AM -   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

I would get the MSDS sheet from your distributor to verify if these products are indeed DuPont. Then, have copies of the needed MSDS sheet(s) sent in a clear plastic document envelope that is adhered to the outside of the box when your ink is shipped from them.
 
 
Old September 18th, 2012 Sep 18, 2012 6:36:25 AM -   #19 (permalink)
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To be honest it really depends of who is selling you DTG brand inks. Good distributors have Dupont. But some try to earn a little on the side selling other inks as DTG brand. Witnessed this myself with this whole thing with CMYK inks washing of white underbase all over Europe all of the sudden two years ago.

Thats said I don't use Dupont for over a year now and no major problems.

BTW what kind of certification do you need in Belarus to pass the customs ?
 
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To kevrokr,
Thank you so much!
to Smalzstein,
If the goods were certified in Russia or Kazahstan, we don't need certification (it is because we are member of Belarussian-Russian-Kazahstanian union). DuPont (or Dtg, I don't remeber exactly) was certified in Russia. That is why we have to prove that DuPont=DTG. In this case we don't need to undergo certification.
If we can't prove this, we have to order one litre of pretreatment or cleaning solution and pass it to certification office and we pay 150 euro for certification. Then the certification office gives us certificate for solution (or pre-treatment). That is the way we pass certification.
 
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

Lol,
duPont = Dtg?
Very funny expression.
DTG(not digital to garment, company name) company in AUS sells printers to many countries. You bought printer from one of his dealers.
Dealer do not have to carry DuPont ink. It can be any brand.
So, you have to deal with guy who sold to you. I don't understand why you cannot have clear answer. Is there anything we do not know?
If you visit DuPont website MSDS is available to download. Public info.
In USA, some people do mix or re-label-- etc, all kind
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Old September 19th, 2012 Sep 19, 2012 9:01:59 PM -   #22 (permalink)
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

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dealer do not have to carry DuPont ink. It can be any brand.
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That information is incorrect when refering to DTG brand dealers.

I believe you bought your machines from either the Turkish dealer or the Polish dealer. I can confirm that both sell only genuine DuPont consumables.
 
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Jerry I have a question - do your dealers recive bottles of inks or in containers for them to reffil, mix filter bottle themselfs?

I ask because coupe of times in the past I've recived white in a high state of seperation.
 
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

only a couple of dealers buy in bulk and decant themselves, regardless the seperation can happen in any size ink container or cartridge if it is not stored/treated properly or out of date. Did this ink have any batch numbers on it at all?
 
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I will check if I have some old bottles and check it. Thanks Jerry!
 
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

I believe you bought your machines from either the Turkish dealer or the Polish dealer.

Yes, correct.
 
Old December 27th, 2012 Dec 27, 2012 11:09:57 AM -   #27 (permalink)
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Does any one know of any advantages or disadvantages from the ink bags vs the cartridge type inks for the 4880... I have also seen that DTG has a newer 4480 bulk cartridge and they say to leave an air hole open on top of the cartridge so the ink does not strave... But I see the neoflex does not.. Since they are both based on the 4880 printer is this extra air hold really needed?
 
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Default Re: better cheaper dtg ink than dupont

bulk carts need the hole open so as the ink leaves the cart, air can take it's place. this way no negative pressure builds.

the carts with bags inside of them (NeoFlex) are vacuum sealed, so no air needs to be introduced into the bag.

i've used both with equal results, while others will swear by the sealed carts (bag inside). if you are printing everyday, then the bulk carts should be fine. i will say that the WHITE ink is much more sensitive to the elements and i would recommend using sealed carts for that. again, i've done both with equal results, but i also keep the ink moving, have good humidity, keep my printer clean, etc.
 
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Thanks ...That makes sense
 
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The NeoFlex can use bulk ink carts, I've used them, but do remember, the carts supplied by AA for the NeoFlex have sealed bags inside - the best of both worlds
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