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Old September 15th, 2016 Sep 15, 2016 9:17:01 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Would like to start a screen printing business. I'm a new stay at home mum and would love to make kids printed tshirts. Looking at just black and white at this stage with just words so no fine details.
My question is. What emulsion, ink brands and transparency papers are recomended. Other than frames, mesh and squeegee which I have, is there a list of things I need to get started. Thank you ?
 
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Btw I'm in WA
 
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Hi!! I have no idea re screen printing so sorry if you go to excitedly read your response .......
I am in Sydney.
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I did get excited ???
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Old September 16th, 2016 Sep 16, 2016 4:22:43 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Here is the least expensive one I could find. It will give you an idea of what is involved.

http://www.dharmatrading.com/paints/...nting-kit.html
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Ryonet is located in Vancouver WA. They offer starter kits and are really good folks. They also offer a hands on course to get you started. Here's a link to their kits page. Starter And Diy Screen Printing Kits | ScreenPrinting.com by Ryonet. You can also find lots of How To videos on their website.
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Thank you so much. Will look into those xx
 
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If all you are going to do is single color designs, why not look into heat press vinyl? With a vinyl cutter and a heat press, you can do pretty much anything including decals.
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Old September 17th, 2016 Sep 17, 2016 12:57:58 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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If all you are going to do is single color designs, why not look into heat press vinyl? With a vinyl cutter and a heat press, you can do pretty much anything including decals.
I agree that if you are going to do mostly single colors and simple designs then heat press vinyl, a cutter and heat press will do nicely. For smaller designs (12" x 12" or so) you could use a smaller craft cutter but a cutter than can do up to 20" wide material will work best if you want the ability to produce in any quantity.
 
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I agree with what is stated in the 2 posts above. I started screen printing on a Yudu many years ago when my daughter was born, but I only used professional equipment. I now have a 4 color 2 station press that I don't know how to use. For what it sounds like you want to do, especially since I've just started doing this, heat transfer vinyl seems to be the definite way to go. Once you have done both, you realize the huge mess (it can be hard to keep up with if you are at home with a child) of screen printing and the setup, is quite extensive, as well as the time for the emulsion to cure and what not, compared to doing HTV. That's my experience anyways. You should see pictures of how I have ruined our downstairs bathroom with all of my chemicals and whatnot. Not to mention, I have to keep my 2 year old out of there, because I don't want him getting into anything. Just some mom things to consider.
 
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That's a lot of great advice thank you for taking time out to answer me.

I didn't even consider heat transfer. Ill be doing a lot of googling this week.
Do heat transfers stick on stiff ?
Is it only vinyl or is there other options?
Do you buy the transfer paper in rolls?
Do I need a special printer or my normal inkjet will do the work?
What's the average price of a good heat press ?
Sorry for all the questions.

Thank you so so much
 
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Hello, I am new as well. I bought my heat press on EBay, new for $165 . Get the large one 16x20 I think it was.

Q. Do heat transfers stick on stiff ?
A. Jet Soft Feels vet good. Very soft.

Is it only vinyl or is there other options?
A. There is Plastisol, which is ordered out screen print, which gets costly unless you are going to order a hundred.
The cheaper route is vinyl. You can order stock prints from companies. Or, print at home, I plan to use my desk jet, with a cutter, and my heat press.
There is weedless transfers, you don't have to cut, used with a laser printer.

Do you buy the transfer paper in rolls?
A. Yes, you can

Do I need a special printer or my normal inkjet will do the work?
A. Inkjet will work, but you need a cutter. It uses a laser eye to cut the design for you. (Only the ink transfers to the material)
A laser printer allows the transfer to be heat without cutting, called seedless. A much cheaper option.
Or, a DTG (direct to garment) about $2k, not sure how it works.
I have not found how to print white on dark yet, without buying an Okie printer, also $2k.

What's the average price of a good heat press ?
I bought my heat press on EBay, new for $165 . Get the large one 16x20 I think it was.


Hope this helps. There is a lot of info. Do your research and decide what is best for you. I have been reading posts for two months lol
 
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That's a lot of great advice thank you for taking time out to answer me.

I didn't even consider heat transfer. Ill be doing a lot of googling this week.
Do heat transfers stick on stiff ?
Is it only vinyl or is there other options?
Do you buy the transfer paper in rolls?
Do I need a special printer or my normal inkjet will do the work?
What's the average price of a good heat press ?
Sorry for all the questions.

Thank you so so much
"Do heat transfers stick on stiff ?"

Stiff? Do you mean stuff? Heat transfer vinyl will stick on almost all garments. There are some fabrics not suitable simply because of the heat you apply the vinyl with will melt them, cheap tote bags are an example. You can also buy and cut sign vinyl for use on windows, banners, cars, trucks, etc.

"Do I need a special printer or my normal inkjet will do the work? "
An Epson printer with pigment based ink works well for doing printed transfers. There is transfer papers available for both light and dark fabrics.

What's the average price of a good heat press ?
A starter press can be had for $250 and up. High end presses can run up over $1,000 easily.
 
Old September 19th, 2016 Sep 19, 2016 5:19:24 PM -   #14 (permalink)
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Just my two cents:
for me, it would depend on how many shirts are being done at a time. I am a Screenprinter; I had to learn on my own, so I've learned a lot the hard way haha! Anyhow - if you're doing MORE than just a few, it's been my experience that it's quicker and cheaper to screenprint than it is to cut & press - especially if you already have everything you need to print with.
It sounds easier to cut, weed, and press, but if you pay attention you will see that doing a lot actually takes a lot longer - unless I am just incredibly slow....


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Old September 19th, 2016 Sep 19, 2016 10:37:51 PM -   #15 (permalink)
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with reference to the original post,,, and using UK prices,,, Vinyl would be the way to go.
pick up a Cameo silhouette 2, they've dropped to under £200 now the 3 is out and I saw one on ebay the other day for 150. You can pick up a perfectly usable A4 Chinese press for around £80 (China makes good as well as bad) and sheets of easyweed come in at under £2 for 12 inch by 18 so you'll get 3 kids backs out of that. (xpres workwear vinyl is very washable but can be difficult to weed fine detail as its so stretchy). just start off perfecting one method before getting your feet wet on the next.
 






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