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[Anajet] mPower or Neoflex???

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Old March 20th, 2012 Mar 20, 2012 8:57:21 AM -   #31 (permalink)
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

The ink cost is very dependent on the image, especially with our system. since the white layer is dynamically created to use only the minimum amount of ink necessary to achieve a set color it varies drastically. The coke image you have is anywhere to $2.80-$3.00 do to the heavy coverage of white. Most images you will have less coverage and will cost betwen $1 and $2 dollars for darks.

Since the white layer is created when you rip an image there is no real chart we can give you for coverage. You can be assured however that the cost will be the cheapest possible without sacrificing color density or vibrancy.
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Old March 20th, 2012 Mar 20, 2012 10:13:45 AM -   #32 (permalink)
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I knew the costs did depend on the designs, but I have a customer who is already comparing me to a silk screener costs, which I know I can't touch their prices. If a design say is $2 in ink costs would the retail be $4 to the customer?
 
Old March 20th, 2012 Mar 20, 2012 10:32:46 AM -   #33 (permalink)
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I think you should consider more than just marketing up the ink cost. You have to look at the number of shirts you can realistically print an hour (one off vs. longer runs), the realistic number of shirts you are going to get orders for, your total investment into dtg printing (i.e. cost of the dtg printer, pretreater, ancillary equipment,...), all your other costs (i.e. ink costs, garment cost, rent,...) and what your desired return on investment is? Once you have the answers to these questions, then you will have the knowledge to establish pricing.

I suggest to dtg printers to reevaluate their pricing 1-2 times a year to make sure that your answers to the questions above are the same or if they have changed, you are aware of how that effects your pricing.

Just my opinion. Best wishes,

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Old March 20th, 2012 Mar 20, 2012 10:52:24 AM -   #34 (permalink)
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

I would add some markup, but not worry about doubling the cost of ink. I would charge for time(60-80 per hr?) and divide that by the amount of shirts that can be produced. Definitely mark up the t-shirt. If competing with screener, you have to upsell the fact that this is 4 color process, no screen charges, no seps and yes you can do only one if needed or fit a smaller version on the boss's grandkids toddler shirt for no additional charge. There is a point where all those other costs zero out and are cheaper with screen. Just like the screener can't be cheaper with 4 color process on 25 shirts, you cannot be cheaper on single color imprints.
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Old March 20th, 2012 Mar 20, 2012 12:22:42 PM -   #35 (permalink)
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I sent you a post the week we got back-where the pictures you posted from the Atlantic City show, but have not seen where you saw it.
Great to hear from you and we are excited to get our new Neo.
I do have a question for you as I wish I had looked at the costs of the prints, I usually do, your tech told me it calculated it, but I never actually looked at the cost for the prints I watched you print. I have no idea what a design costs, like the Coke bottles with the girl on it you made for us (my son loved it and got many compliments at school on it). Do you all have a spreadsheet or something on that?
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Old March 20th, 2012 Mar 20, 2012 12:57:28 PM -   #36 (permalink)
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

Wouldn't this really be comparing RIPS?
 
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Thanks Mark, I always like to hear your perpestive on this industry!
 
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perspective I mean
 
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Wouldn't this really be comparing RIPS?
If this were the case everyone would have the same output. There are certain things that RIP cannot do if the ability is not within the hardware.
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

Not a problem. Pricing and pretreating are the two most underrated areas for people getting into dtg printing. Sometimes I wish there was a magic formula, but there is not.

Here is my best advice. Take a hard look at the questions above and create your first round of pricing. For the first two months keep a log of the number of shirts you print, the square inches of the artwork, total amount ink used (not from the RIP, but actual from the bottles or cartridges used - weigh the cartridges before you start printing and when you are done to get actual ink used), the time it took to print the jobs and what revenues were generated. Then reevaluate your pricing. Make changes if necessary.

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As an owner of a DTG, I am a newbie in the industry of DTG. I am happy when it prints because it prints well. Unfortunately, problems on the machine is taking more of my time rather than learning about the software, profiles, pretreating, etc. Instead, i'm consumed on troubleshooting on an actual problem with the machine. At least tech support is available to take my call.
 
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As an owner of a DTG, I am a newbie in the industry of DTG. I am happy when it prints because it prints well. Unfortunately, problems on the machine is taking more of my time rather than learning about the software, profiles, pretreating, etc. Instead, i'm consumed on troubleshooting on an actual problem with the machine. At least tech support is available to take my call.
That is very frustrating I know. I had similar problems but included the puzzle of pretreating
correctly. I just wanted you to know you were not alone!
 
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

i have an anajet and this past year i purchased the neoflex. the neoflex beats it hands down. the color is spectacular. the support is second to none. join the neo family. you will not regret it.
 
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

All of the above are important. The hardware, the rip, the garment you choose, the level of training you receive when you buy a printer, the level of support after the sale, the true cost of ink and pre treat, labor, how much time will you have to spend maintaing your printer, just to name a few.
Is speed the most important thing? Is quality of print the most important?
If I was starting today I would have all prospective companies print my graphic on shirts I supplied. I would compare them before wash. I would cut them in half. Keep one half out and never wash it so I had a starting point for comparison. I would wash the other half and compare them to the half not washed at 1 wash 5, 10 and 20. It's not just the how the image looks when it's new, it's also about how long it lasts.
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Default Re: mPower or Neoflex???

Answer is easy.
Price?
Quality out put?
After Service?
Supply cost?
Research more in TSF.
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