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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 1:13:26 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,
I Had a recent Stamp submission get banned from a t-shirt fulfillment company for being threatening?!! I have the image here on this site (it is for image "Unacceptable Behavior" and I don't feel it should, especially in a political year when pro-campaign stuff is ok but my art is not.


Anyone feel free to respond/comment....
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 1:26:35 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

Hi Scott. Is the zazzle.com on the stamp itself, that could that possibly be the problem?

I can't see what is wrong with the rest of the image, for them not to be connected with it?
 
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 1:35:05 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

A. I like the design
B. when you agreed to the zazzle terms of service you agreed to a non disclosure that states you will never say anything bad about zazzle in a public forum.
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 1:44:41 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

I'm not saying it about zazzle.com per se...I'm saying artistic statement of free speech....that's all
 
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 2:13:27 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

I don't see anything wrong with that design. Could the problem lie with the tags/keywords you assigned?
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 2:16:09 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

In response I have removed reference to the company and I want the issue to be about censorship and not anything bad about 1 company.

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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 2:40:12 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

the design looks harmless... why did you name it unacceptable behavior? That might be what set them off...? Maybe they just erred on the side of not being offensive... dumb but that's what they might have done... change the name to 2 guys in masks...lol
 
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I think it is probably the blood. Some people find blood highly offensive. One of my businesses specializes in the design and manufacture of high end Halloween props, you would be amazed at the number of requests we get asking can you build x prop but not make it bloody. I have asked on several occasions why they wanted blood removed and they said that their demographic in their are found any thing with blood or gore to offensive. As a result we have developed a line of non gore props to cater to that market and they have sold way beyond expectation.
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 3:08:34 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: My Art gets banned but political promotion stuff is ok...

Why don't you ask them why they found it unacceptable? You can show examples of other similar products that haven't been banned.
 
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 5:58:44 PM -   #10 (permalink)
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In response I have removed reference to the company and I want the issue to be about censorship and not anything bad about 1 company.

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It's possible that because it is a US Postage stamp that there are even stricter guidelines about what can and cannot be printed.

I know that for the USPS custom postage program, they have very strict guidelines about what is allowed. They used to have a rule that no logos were allowed, but they eased up on that a bit.

My guess is that the image would be fine on a t-shirt, but may have crossed the guidelines for the USPS custom postage program.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), there's no "free speech" when it comes to private businesses and what they choose to print and not print. If you wanted to print it yourself, then you could practice your free speech rights, but they aren't required to print anything they don't feel is appropriate (or their print partner USPS deems inappropriate).
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Old August 20th, 2008 Aug 20, 2008 7:28:14 PM -   #11 (permalink)
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It's possible that because it is a US Postage stamp that there are even stricter guidelines about what can and cannot be printed.

I know that for the USPS custom postage program, they have very strict guidelines about what is allowed. They used to have a rule that no logos were allowed, but they eased up on that a bit.

My guess is that the image would be fine on a t-shirt, but may have crossed the guidelines for the USPS custom postage program.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), there's no "free speech" when it comes to private businesses and what they choose to print and not print. If you wanted to print it yourself, then you could practice your free speech rights, but they aren't required to print anything they don't feel is appropriate (or their print partner USPS deems inappropriate).

I had GOPOSTL on my car for over 16 years and the state made me get rid of it this year, they said it means something bad, duh that is why I got it over 16 years ago and it is just now bad.
I worked there is why I got it but yea I am sure they find it offensive if it is going on a stamp maybe. who knows
 
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Old August 21st, 2008 Aug 21, 2008 12:28:04 AM -   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks all for your input...I feel better about the censorship...now....not great, but that's life.
The GOPOSTL made my day....I see I am not alone.....a red badge of courage in Art.

Thnx again,

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Old August 21st, 2008 Aug 21, 2008 6:46:16 AM -   #13 (permalink)
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I don't see anything "wrong" with your design, Scott - it must be the stamp thing.

So far as the GOPOSTL issue - I'm not sure about Ohio, but in many states a percentage of the vanity licence plate fee goes to the two political parties. So, it's not totally a personal issue. I could care less, but the Dems and Republicans don't want money (in theory) that came from something that many people find offensive.
 
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I had GOPOSTL on my car for over 16 years and the state made me get rid of it this year, they said it means something bad, duh that is why I got it over 16 years ago and it is just now bad.
I worked there is why I got it but yea I am sure they find it offensive if it is going on a stamp maybe. who knows
That reminds me a shipping/package place that opened up near my house called "Going Postal". I just didn't think what was the best name for a place.
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Old August 21st, 2008 Aug 21, 2008 9:01:35 AM -   #15 (permalink)
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That reminds me a shipping/package place that opened up near my house called "Going Postal"
We have one of those near us as well
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