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well if I personally know that the product you sell for more then average price that costs less then average, I would never buy it.
I do not get your point. All the things we buy in society (clothes,tylenol,CD's) are sold way above their cost price. I onced purchased a white Sean John T at macys for 35 dollars and wore it once before it fell apart. It was a crappy T, bust sells for 35 dollars. Marketing is the selling point of most products, and not really the product itself.
Alexander have you ever go on www.alibaba.com and find out the real rpice of the items that you are buying everyday and the margin that the BIG compagny names are making on you.
Like Josanda had mention this is the REAL business. That is the way things are happening in the business world
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Yes you do get 10% of your sales, however if you sign up as an associate you get an additional 7% which means if you refer guys to your products using your zazzle* and they buy your products you get 17%.
Simply go to your account and sign up to become an associate.
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FYI on your questions busyqate. Everything you submit to them (unless it's still in progress) is now their property. In the terms and conditions it states this explicitly. So whatever you submit to them you cannot submit on a personal site.
farennikov, if you're complaining about badalou's markup, spare a thought for the females around the place who fork out $100+ for a jar of moisturising cream (or whatever) that's supposed to make them look younger. Average cost of ingredients in the most expensive jars of skin care creams is around $5. A recent analysis I saw reported on a reputable tv science show demonstrated that two skin care brands owned by the same company put out identical products, one retailing at $25, the other at $125. The only difference was in the market positioning.
If you really applied your stated mark-up principle, you wouldn't be buying much of anything! Get real.
So lets see if you did shipping and making and billing and you shirt sells for $20.
Shirt, white cotton 1.25
Shipping (Under $3.00 US mail)But I get that from my customer.
Billing?
Hot peel transfer 75 cents. Ink cvost .50 cents Someone plug in screen printing as I do not do them but lets just have fun and say $3.00
So my tees sell for $20 retail from me and it cost me $2.50 so I just made 87% instead of 10%?? there is something wrong with that. and I am if it is screened what is the cost and profit. Still seems you could do better than 10%. That's not good business. I guess one of the reason I don't use that type of service. I can buy stock transfers and still make money way over 10%
Some people just don't like dealing with stocking inventory I guess, especially when it's a bunch of different items, colors, sizes, etc. If you're talking about screen print & vinyl press then their's that associated time and equipment cost to print just one shirt. If it's just inkjet transfer then it's cheaper but you have that square box around your image. If you want to get rid of that then you still have to invest in a vinyl cuter w/ optical eyes, equipment cost. On top of that, RMA is a pain. I personally don't use fulfillment services, but they're good for a lot people. Plus, it's easy and painless.
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farennikov, if you're complaining about badalou's markup, spare a thought for the females around the place who fork out $100+ for a jar of moisturising cream (or whatever) that's supposed to make them look younger. Average cost of ingredients in the most expensive jars of skin care creams is around $5. A recent analysis I saw reported on a reputable tv science show demonstrated that two skin care brands owned by the same company put out identical products, one retailing at $25, the other at $125. The only difference was in the market positioning.
If you really applied your stated mark-up principle, you wouldn't be buying much of anything! Get real.
That's a tough one. People cough up $100+ for a pair of Nike that probably cost less than $10 to produce. But look at how much money Nike put in to create an "image" with all the top athletes wearing their shoes. You can mark up as much as you want for your t-shirt, but unless your product is something really amazing or is the "image" that people are going after, it won't sell. Just my humble opinion.
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Yeah, that was really my point, James. You said it more concisely. Branding, marketing, promotion - whatever you want to call it - is 90% of retailing. As you observe, that costs a lot, whether in time or financial investment, or both, and that cost needs to be factored into the retail price, along with basic materials and production costs. I think that's something a lot of small businesses overlook to their peril.
Back to my skincare example, I suspect MOST of the cost of those expensively packaged and largely useless products is in marketing and promo (what does it cost to "buy" a supermodel or major celebrity for a glossy print or tv ad?), and leasing prime retail space in the fashionable department stores at enormous rates. The materials cost is negligible by comparison. Terrible value from the customer's point of view, but that's the cost of buying image.
FYI on your questions busyqate. Everything you submit to them (unless it's still in progress) is now their property. In the terms and conditions it states this explicitly. So whatever you submit to them you cannot submit on a personal site.
I don't think this is true at all.
You may be reading the terms a bit wrong. You can use the same designs at zazzle at any other place you like.
a friend of mine was hired to audit billabong recently and after talking about the margins i was getting he laughed told me it costs them around 80 c for 1 of these so called fashion shirts that end up selling for over $60AU (in aus)
the quality is all a perfect illusion they give u to think they have superior quality product however that keeps china employed
kaner, I don't agree with you at all that Billabong's quality is "all an illusion". The Billabong Ts I've owned are incredibly good quality and heavier weight than any blank I've come across (not that heavyweight always = great quality, but in Billabong's case it does, at least in my experience).
I have had one Billabong T for over 10 years and it's still holding its shape and looking fine....just a bit faded, no pilling at all, and the print still looks sharp. I just wish I knew where to buy blanks that were anywhere close to Billabong's quality.
It may well be correct that one of their Ts only costs them 80c, but that's not necessarily any reflection at all on the quality. It is more likely to do with production scale. Big fashion companies like Billabong can order in vast volumes, and that reduces their costs to an extent that is way beyond small players like thee and me.
well if I personally know that the product you sell for more then average price that costs less then average, I would never buy it.
I produce custom made shirts for private lines who usually pay under $5 a shirt for everything: custom specs, high quality combed cotton, ustom prints, labels and sometimes packaging. The quality in producing your own with high quality material is much better than using a blank, I agree. But all my customers sell their shirts for over $20 because of the quality. If that's unfair, then I can tell you that 99.9% of retailers are unfair. Imgaine the price I just listed for small lines- now imagine the price that GAP gets for large quantities.
Your shirts on your site are for $35 (the one that I saw). What the heck are you paying so that your prices are reasonable? If you are paying over $5-$6 per shirt, that's too much, even for high quality.
kaner, I don't agree with you at all that Billabong's quality is "all an illusion". The Billabong Ts I've owned are incredibly good quality and heavier weight than any blank I've come across (not that heavyweight always = great quality, but in Billabong's case it does, at least in my experience).
I have had one Billabong T for over 10 years and it's still holding its shape and looking fine....just a bit faded, no pilling at all, and the print still looks sharp. I just wish I knew where to buy blanks that were anywhere close to Billabong's quality.
It may well be correct that one of their Ts only costs them 80c, but that's not necessarily any reflection at all on the quality. It is more likely to do with production scale. Big fashion companies like Billabong can order in vast volumes, and that reduces their costs to an extent that is way beyond small players like thee and me.
sorry mis interpreted i meant that the illusion that their shirts are of greater quality to the ones we could but for 5 dollars etc
that just because they are marked up to 60 dollars they still aren't actually better quality..
i was emphasizing the unreasonable mark up suggestion that just cos u can buy a shirt for 6 dollars doesn't mean u should feel guilty selling it 4 over 15 dollars
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