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jtmercutio · June 23rd, 2008

Anyone have any suggestions? I was pretty excited to see someone was selling a Roland Colorcamm 12" (PC-12) near my home city until i read about everyones issues with colorcamms... I messaged the guy and he said it isnt set up, that he only ran a small amount of vinyl (10 feet or so) before buying a larger vinyl printer.

So I am looking for a temporary solution for a vinyl printer until I can afford the big bucks to buy something. So, does anyone have any suggestions? I am amazed with how helpful everyone has already been on this site. Thanks a ton for any advice in advance

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JT

dodank · June 23rd, 2008

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Originally Posted by jtmercutio


	Anyone have any suggestions? I was pretty excited to see someone was selling a Roland Colorcamm 12" (PC-12) near my home city until i read about everyones issues with colorcamms... I messaged the guy and he said it isnt set up, that he only ran a small amount of vinyl (10 feet or so) before buying a larger vinyl printer. So I am looking for a temporary solution for a vinyl printer until I can afford the big bucks to buy something. So, does anyone have any suggestions? I am amazed with how helpful everyone has already been on this site. Thanks a ton for any advice in advance ) JT

have u checked out Welcome to the Frontpage

martinwoods · June 23rd, 2008

Just a cutter?
Why not the Roland gx 24?

jtmercutio · June 23rd, 2008

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	Just a cutter? Why not the Roland gx 24?

pretty sure roland gx 24 is just a cutter, isnt it? I am looking to get a printer.... already have a cutter.

jtmercutio · June 23rd, 2008

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Originally Posted by dodank


	have u checked out Welcome to the Frontpage

not seeing any printers... lots of cutter/plotters though...

martinwoods · June 23rd, 2008

duh, guess I overlooked the vinyl printer part/
sorry, I will have to read more carefully

jtmercutio · June 23rd, 2008

lol no prob man... I've been guilty of worse oversights lol... thanks anyway though!

COEDS · June 24th, 2008

I know you can get Roland pc60 on ebay for that kind of money. I know nothing about them other than they print on vinyl . ....JB

victorysign · June 24th, 2008

We bought a Roland 600 off ebay for about that amount. If you keep checking (daily) you can usually find a good deal on one. We went with the Roland because it was cheap and seemed easy to operate - we basically wanted it for the smaller jobs as we send out all big jobs.

So far (after about 3 weeks) we love it! We have printed several smaller decals on vinyl. We just ordered a set of the ribbons to do t-shirts - so we'll see how that goes. It is a bit slow at printing and does seem a bit costly on the ribbons, BUT - as I said, for smaller jobs or the occasional decal order that walks in off the street, it's great!

We watched ebay for about 2 months before finally finding one that we felt was a good deal. We were able to call and talk with the seller - who still had the original box - and we felt pretty confident about the transaction.

The only major problem we have had is the lack of drivers for windows xp - it will cut from xp, but not print, so we have had to run it off an older laptop we had.

Good Luck in your search!

P.S. you may also check ebay for the roland pc 50 (i think that's the right #) - I remember seeing one a while back for about $1000

jtmercutio · June 24th, 2008

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Originally Posted by victorysign


	We bought a Roland 600 off ebay for about that amount. If you keep checking (daily) you can usually find a good deal on one. We went with the Roland because it was cheap and seemed easy to operate - we basically wanted it for the smaller jobs as we send out all big jobs. So far (after about 3 weeks) we love it! We have printed several smaller decals on vinyl. We just ordered a set of the ribbons to do t-shirts - so we'll see how that goes. It is a bit slow at printing and does seem a bit costly on the ribbons, BUT - as I said, for smaller jobs or the occasional decal order that walks in off the street, it's great! We watched ebay for about 2 months before finally finding one that we felt was a good deal. We were able to call and talk with the seller - who still had the original box - and we felt pretty confident about the transaction. The only major problem we have had is the lack of drivers for windows xp - it will cut from xp, but not print, so we have had to run it off an older laptop we had. Good Luck in your search! P.S. you may also check ebay for the roland pc 50 (i think that's the right #) - I remember seeing one a while back for about $1000

it doesnt print from xp? Yikes!!! All I have is XP and a laptop with vista

/ Thanks for the warning! and the good advice! lol...

Thanks for all the awesome advice on here guys!

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victorysign · June 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by jtmercutio


	it doesnt print from xp? Yikes!!! All I have is XP and a laptop with vista / Thanks for the warning! and the good advice! lol... Thanks for all the awesome advice on here guys! )

SORRY!!! did I say XP? I meant VISTA! You can go to the roland site and get drivers for XP - but not VISTA - sorry for the misprint!

hammered · June 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by jtmercutio


	Anyone have any suggestions? I was pretty excited to see someone was selling a Roland Colorcamm 12" (PC-12) near my home city until i read about everyones issues with colorcamms... I messaged the guy and he said it isnt set up, that he only ran a small amount of vinyl (10 feet or so) before buying a larger vinyl printer. So I am looking for a temporary solution for a vinyl printer until I can afford the big bucks to buy something. So, does anyone have any suggestions? I am amazed with how helpful everyone has already been on this site. Thanks a ton for any advice in advance ) JT

Im running a PC60 and for what I do, its the best investment Ive made. You can make a good amount of money running a thermal printer and have no issues. I use Avery A4, its inexpensive and for the short term stickers I do, you cant beat it. Now the 60 is a PATA when it comes to cost to per inch. These are expensive machines to run, BUT if you learn to use spot colors where you can, it will help. My only regret in getting the 60 was the lack of the Ribbon Saver. That really helps and you will pay for that if you find a 600 for sale. Now the down side is, ZeroNine is no longer going to sell or carry Roland ribbons after what they have is gone. But Roland still does anf theirs are only a buck more so... For me, I wouldnt go for the 12. Too limiting in the stickers you can output. My 60 is a 24" machine and I can feed it 2" material if thats what I need to do. It may not be the fastest cutter but thats what my Graphtech is for.

Learn how to use spot colors, shop around for vinyl and adhesive backed poly for the cheapest prices. And as much as many people diss Ebay, if you know what you need, you can get some banging deals.

jtmercutio · June 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by hammered


	Im running a PC60 and for what I do, its the best investment Ive made. You can make a good amount of money running a thermal printer and have no issues. I use Avery A4, its inexpensive and for the short term stickers I do, you cant beat it. Now the 60 is a PATA when it comes to cost to per inch. These are expensive machines to run, BUT if you learn to use spot colors where you can, it will help. My only regret in getting the 60 was the lack of the Ribbon Saver. That really helps and you will pay for that if you find a 600 for sale. Now the down side is, ZeroNine is no longer going to sell or carry Roland ribbons after what they have is gone. But Roland still does anf theirs are only a buck more so... For me, I wouldnt go for the 12. Too limiting in the stickers you can output. My 60 is a 24" machine and I can feed it 2" material if thats what I need to do. It may not be the fastest cutter but thats what my Graphtech is for. Learn how to use spot colors, shop around for vinyl and adhesive backed poly for the cheapest prices. And as much as many people diss Ebay, if you know what you need, you can get some banging deals.

i am on the prowl on the bay now actually.... thanks!!!

deuce · June 26th, 2008

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Originally Posted by victorysign


	SORRY!!! did I say XP? I meant VISTA! You can go to the roland site and get drivers for XP - but not VISTA - sorry for the misprint!

Your having to use an older system to work for that vinyl cutter is becoming the biggest issue. Microsoft is basically giving all New Vista customers a free XP license if they want to revert to the older system.....

hmmmmm

COEDS · June 26th, 2008

Good I like xp myself much better. ... JB

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