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Old April 2nd, 2008 Apr 2, 2008 1:43:36 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Cold or Hot Laminator

Dear All,

I am in the process of buying a Roland Versacamm SP-300V and was wondering what type of Laminator should I procure myself "Cold or Hot?".
I have read that cold lamination is more expensive than hot ones, can someone illustrate it more with actual cost per SF?
Is cold lamination better then hot or vice versa?
I am looking forward to do a lot of labels, stickers, posters and vehicle graphics (not really wrapping, but large sticker), is it hot or cold lamination will do a difference?
I once tried to hot laminate a decal print out of an Epson 7880 and it was a total mess, I just do not want to purchase a wrong laminator for my Versacamm.
Is the DAIGE Quickmount 4 a bad product? It is a cold laminator and the price is the lowest I saw on the market.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Default Re: Cold or Hot Laminator

James, I have the Daige and think it is great. Not really sure what the advantages / disadvantages are with hot lam but I really like the cold lamination process. I don't think I have seen a 30" hot laminator. Hope this helps.
 
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Old April 2nd, 2008 Apr 2, 2008 6:04:55 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the update Steve,

What printer are you using or what type of print are you laminating? and what laminating media you are using for the Daige?
 
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Default Re: Cold or Hot Laminator

You would want a cold laminator for your purpose..

I would check out the sign boards.. like signs101 and do a search for laminators.. that way you can find the best brand and see what troubles people have had with some of the ones on the market..
 
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Default Re: Cold or Hot Laminator

What do you guys think about this laminator on eBay.

NEW 63" cold laminator for sign and mounting printing - eBay (item 350043002213 end time Apr-06-08 20:15:00 PDT)
 
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I think my 56" big squeegee will do the trick...and it only cost 111.00 bucks...no bubbles...works awesome !
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Yups thats what i use Ronnie.. Ive been telling everyone one. lol..

James i would really do research on any brand i would by on ebay.. check the sign forums..
like signs101 and do a search for the brand..
 
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Default Re: Cold or Hot Laminator

I have a Roland SP300v and use mostly LG or Oracal vinyl and cold laminate with the Daige 30" quickmount.
 
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What do you guys think about the "Big Squeegee" for a start-up?
 
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What do you guys think about the "Big Squeegee" for a start-up?
by the time you mount everything on a lam machine...me and the BS will be done !!!....it works great...just need a good smooth surface to do lams on.
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Guys, I finally received my "Big Squeegee" and yesterday night I laminated a 24X36 poster with it. Incredible, I was amaze about the results.

The Big Squeegee does not give you 100% the result of a real laminator but I think it bring you real close to it at 85%. (No bubbles, only little silvering, depend on the media)

This is the perfect purchase for someone who is new in the printing business who is not yet ready to purchase a Laminator.

One more thing, it is easy to operate.

I just Love my "Big Squeegee"

For those who want to see more, go on youtube and make a search for "Big Squeegee".

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I think when done it looks as good as the results with a laminator.. the silvering goes away usually within 24 hours or faster if you zap it with your heat gun.. lol..

The one time and the last time we had something laminated by a machine it was done by the sign supply company.. and it came to us with a few bubbles..lol..

glad you like your big squeegee.. they are really a handy tool for laying big prints.. and for lamming and for applying app. tape quickly.
 
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I think when done it looks as good as the results with a laminator.. the silvering goes away usually within 24 hours or faster if you zap it with your heat gun.. lol..
I'm going to buy the Big S, but can someone go over laminates? What types to buy.....which laminates for different uses.... how thick... how thin....which one's stick better.....last longer....Where to buy for good deals....etc...
 
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Default Re: Cold or Hot Laminator

The best price I got for the big squeegee was at BeaconGraphics (the 2-32 model at $65.50).
I have not used an overlaminate but a clear vinyl (Oracal 651), the prices for the vinyl or the overlaminates are better at the signsupply website .
I haven't try to use an overlaminate, but if there is anyone familiar with what is best to use with the big squeegee, please advice. So far I am satisfy with the Oracal 651 but probably an overlaminate might be better.

N.B: the Oracal 651 is cheaper then any Oracal overlaminate media. Does it really make a difference using one or the other?
 
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